Mike's 360G Dream House, Dream Tank, Dream Box

Just read the entire build thread. Love the equipment you're using. It definitely looks like Dino. I battled Dino and byropsis a few years ago(2013/2014, currently out of hobby) and used Ultra Algae X. Killed Dino in 3 days. I'm not sure if it's still around but if you can find some, I bet it will fix your issues.
 
I'm going to give hydrogen peroxide dosing a go first. There is a product called dino-x which replaced ultra algae x that supposedly works but I would have to dose 75ml every 2 days for 375 gallons. A 500 ml bottle cost $50 bucks and you're suppose to treat until gone which could take up to a month! Some reports of SPS dying from the treatment also.
 
I wouldn't use any chemicals to treat Dino. Increase flow at the sand bed reduce zeobak reduce light period get some other algae to your arid reactor beside cheato. Add a lot of astrea snail and clean up crew and let it ride. I have been through this like a few months ago N now my tank is spotless no algae. The red leg hermit even eat the Damm dino
 
I wouldn't use any chemicals to treat Dino. Increase flow at the sand bed reduce zeobak reduce light period get some other algae to your arid reactor beside cheato. Add a lot of astrea snail and clean up crew and let it ride. I have been through this like a few months ago N now my tank is spotless no algae. The red leg hermit even eat the Damm dino

This stuff is spreading like crazy and suffocating my SPS. I have four MP40QDs running at 70% and two Tunze 6255 running at 90%. There is plenty of flow in the tank for sure. I have stopped zeobak altogether as it was not doing anything to help except create excess slime. The chaeto's growth has stalled due to the dinos smothering it. I don't think adding more snails will help as the ones in the tank seem to be dying or getting weak feeding on the dinos. I have to blow the dinos off the SPS every hour to stop them from dying only for the dinos to come back right away, it's crazy. Pretty sure I'll lose a lot of frags waiting for months for the dinos to clear.

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Do u have a frag tank that u can move all corals to? U can try to go completely dark for 3 to 4 days see if that help.

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Another way that I use is to get a hose and suck the water to the filter sock that way u can suck the dino out to the filter sock for hours and don't have to do water change. Be consistent do that everyday and change Filter sock don't let them multiply more. It's a hard battle but we are human vs algae we suppose to win.

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Yeah, I've been doing that also. They come back within a day or two to the same amount that was sucked out previously. It's overwhelming to say the least.
 
YES! It's getting crazy. Looks like I might be losing my tono wrasse. I spotted it swimming funny just right now and doing barrel rolls. I just netted it and put it in an acclimation box. I hope it pulls through but I doubt it. In past experience, once a wrasse starts swimming funny, it's a goner. It's either the dinos or possibly swim bladder affecting the wrasse.
 
Nice set up! In my experience you need to ignore this stuff. Accept the fact that it is going to be around for a while and learn to ignore it. Your tank is in its infancy. I started a tank with mostly dry rock that was thoroughly cured and this ugly duckling phase lasted 6-8 months. The more you fight it the worse it gets. I don't think you can curb it you just need to let it go. That is assuming most of your parameters are in check. If your fish are healthy and your corals seem fine, look the other way. This is my opinion of course.....

As far as the fish goes, unless proven otherwise the fish probably had the problem from before. To early to hit the panic button for pretty much anything that happens in your tank.
 
Nice set up! In my experience you need to ignore this stuff. Accept the fact that it is going to be around for a while and learn to ignore it. Your tank is in its infancy. I started a tank with mostly dry rock that was thoroughly cured and this ugly duckling phase lasted 6-8 months. The more you fight it the worse it gets. I don't think you can curb it you just need to let it go. That is assuming most of your parameters are in check. If your fish are healthy and your corals seem fine, look the other way. This is my opinion of course.....

As far as the fish goes, unless proven otherwise the fish probably had the problem from before. To early to hit the panic button for pretty much anything that happens in your tank.

The fish is a gone, it didn't make it sadly. I would love to ignore it and let it run it's course but it is smothering my sps frags, can't have that!! Either way, I've been dosing DINO-X and it seems to have killed 95% of it already. Some frags did brown out but i'm pretty sure it was from the dinos smothering it all day every single day.

Since the majority of the dinos died, cyano is starting to rear it's ugly head. I much rather have cyano then dinos any day.
 
Make sure your unions lines up perfectly and are hand tighten. Mine were leaking because some of the plumbing was a little short so I simply cut above the union a few inches, put in a coupler so I can adjust the pipe to be a little longer. This way all the unions are touching each other before I begin to tighten them by hand. This ensures a good seal.

Another thing you want to check after making sure the seals are there to begin with like Anthony suggested, is to remove the union. Then check to see if the seal got pushed down too far due to over tightening that they are no longer water tight. Carefully remove the seal, apply some reef safe silicone grease if you have any, if not, just try reseating the seal and hand tighten but not excessively.

If you have a leak around an elbow, take some pvc glue and try pushing it into where the leak is. Shut off the system, purge the pipe of water and dry the area where the leak is occurring. Smother the area with pvc glue and use your finger to try getting it in there if you have to. Good luck, I hope you fix the leak.

Thanks..seems to have solved itself on its own. Bought another valve and PVC unions and elbows to make a whole new section of pipe down to my sump but looks like it stopped on its own. So that's great I guess but will keep them and make sure that the leak is fully gone. So far so good.
 
Hey Mike, How is your pax bellum arid reactor working out? Is maintenance easy or a pia? Does PO4 creep up for while after you harvest the cheato? Does it really pull down PO4 effectively? Looking for pros and cons. Thanks
 
Hey Mike, How is your pax bellum arid reactor working out? Is maintenance easy or a pia? Does PO4 creep up for while after you harvest the cheato? Does it really pull down PO4 effectively? Looking for pros and cons. Thanks

Here's my experience with the arid reactor. I started off with a golf ball size amount of chaeto. It grew a little bit to maybe a soft ball size in month. Since then, it hasn't really grown anymore. I tried several different photo periods from 8, 12 and 18 hours a day. Still, no more growth. I get some hair algae growing in the reactor also and it grows on the chaeto also.

Maintenance is not bad since I have it in a open location. I did move the dastaco and arid around a bit to make getting to the arid more convenient. I don't clean it often as I don't see much in the way of growth but when I do, I simply remove the led bar, remove the top and into a 5 gallon bucket. I rinse everything off when a hose and a final rinse with RODI. Rinse the chaeto and replace.

My tank has very low nutrients so I'm not sure if it's due to the arid or other means. I tested no3 and po4 today and results were no3=1 and po4=.02, tested with salifert and hanna ulr. I'm going to dose the provided nitrate solution to try and bring up nitrates a bit. I'm not really sure I even need the arid reactor on this system to be honest.

It's crazy because I have close to 50 or just a little over 50 fish, about 8 tangs, some fairly large. I feed the fish 2-3 times a day with 6-8 cubes of frozen each feeding. If I feed from a flat pack, I break off big chunks of food, I think this tank gets fed a lot but it still has low nutrients.
 
Mike, great looking tank! Some awesome looking frags too man. Did you beat the dins/cyano as well?
How do you like the DastAco reactor? it is on my wish list for sure! :D

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Here's my experience with the arid reactor. I started off with a golf ball size amount of chaeto. It grew a little bit to maybe a soft ball size in month. Since then, it hasn't really grown anymore. I tried several different photo periods from 8, 12 and 18 hours a day. Still, no more growth. I get some hair algae growing in the reactor also and it grows on the chaeto also.

Maintenance is not bad since I have it in a open location. I did move the dastaco and arid around a bit to make getting to the arid more convenient. I don't clean it often as I don't see much in the way of growth but when I do, I simply remove the led bar, remove the top and into a 5 gallon bucket. I rinse everything off when a hose and a final rinse with RODI. Rinse the chaeto and replace.

My tank has very low nutrients so I'm not sure if it's due to the arid or other means. I tested no3 and po4 today and results were no3=1 and po4=.02, tested with salifert and hanna ulr. I'm going to dose the provided nitrate solution to try and bring up nitrates a bit. I'm not really sure I even need the arid reactor on this system to be honest.

It's crazy because I have close to 50 or just a little over 50 fish, about 8 tangs, some fairly large. I feed the fish 2-3 times a day with 6-8 cubes of frozen each feeding. If I feed from a flat pack, I break off big chunks of food, I think this tank gets fed a lot but it still has low nutrients.

That's a surprising bit of feedback. My guess is that your arid reactor is helping to keep your water Params in check. Plus when your tank is older and the sand isn't so clean anymore, your reactor will save the day without much effort. Thanks for sharing the details.
 
I haven't updated in awhile. There were a lot of uglies going on for several months with the tank. Dinos hit and pretty much smothered most of my corals. Hit the tank with DINO-X and it wiped out the dinos. Then came cyano and a couple weeks or dosing KZ zeozyme, coral snow and zeobak took care of the cyano. Then came the GHA and that took awhile to get rid of.

The arid reactor wasn't enough to keep nutrients down. Nutrients were climbing to no3 100ppm and po4 .31. So I added a Avast marine vibe reactor to run KZ zeolites to help bring down the nutrients some more. The zeolites were able to drop nutrients down to no3 25 and po4 .16 and it's been stuck there for a couple months now.

I just started dosing some redsea nopox at half the recommended dose to try and lower it some more. Some of the corals are doing well but others are suffering. Most likely due to the elevated nutrients.

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