Modern Integrated 50gal Cube...Build Thread!

Did you test on day one?
How much of an ammonia Spike are you going for?

Well, I'd like to see the system have the bacterial capacity to be able to process a large ammonia spike (like .5-1) within 24 hours. My tested numbers never got near .5....


Awesome thread! I'm starting/planning a 57g rimless build right now. You're thread has helped out very much. Thanks and keep up the updates!!!

Thanks Meekz, glad the thread has helped you out! Let me know if you have any questions that weren't covered....
 
I am stunned at the work that went into a 50 gallon tank. I don't know what to think about a build like this. On the one hand it's really impressive, but on the other it's really not this hard. I have a nice looking 90 gallon tank and don't even have a sump. I hope people don't think setting up a tank is this much of a project.

I'm still impressed, don't get me wrong, but one of the few areas you admitted to cutting corners was not getting the corner return on the tank. Really. All the time and effort and money, and you opted to save money on the tank itself. 50 gallons? You have the infrastructure for a 180.

I'm subscribing to this just to see how it turns out. Good luck with it. I'm sure with the same attention to stocking it and caring for it you'll have an amazing tank. I'm still just a bit dazed by what's gone into it.
 
question ...why do it over night?(is it to get the cycle going quicker?) im about to set up a tank with cured rocks but im going to use the shrimp method to get the ammonia spike. thats y im asking ..maybe a stupid question..
 
I hope Josh doesn't mind me jumping in here.....

I am stunned at the work that went into a 50 gallon tank. I don't know what to think about a build like this. On the one hand it's really impressive, but on the other it's really not this hard. I have a nice looking 90 gallon tank and don't even have a sump. I hope people don't think setting up a tank is this much of a project.

I'm still impressed, don't get me wrong, but one of the few areas you admitted to cutting corners was not getting the corner return on the tank. Really. All the time and effort and money, and you opted to save money on the tank itself. 50 gallons? You have the infrastructure for a 180.

I'm subscribing to this just to see how it turns out. Good luck with it. I'm sure with the same attention to stocking it and caring for it you'll have an amazing tank. I'm still just a bit dazed by what's gone into it.

For some of us (me anyway), its the planning and execution of a build that is fun as well. I only have a small tank (50G), and I had a lot of fun designing and building it. As you also said, the infrastructure is there for a bigger tank, so it will be an easy upgrade for him :bounce2:
 
Well said Shaggs. Quality trumps quantity, in my opinion. I put almost a years worth of research and planning into a 29g tank and there are still a few things I would have done differently. Keep up the good work Josh!
 
The aquascape sits just right in the tank that size. Very appealing. It gives me a lot of ideas. Keep having fun building it!
 
I am stunned at the work that went into a 50 gallon tank. I don't know what to think about a build like this. On the one hand it's really impressive, but on the other it's really not this hard. I have a nice looking 90 gallon tank and don't even have a sump. I hope people don't think setting up a tank is this much of a project.

I'm still impressed, don't get me wrong, but one of the few areas you admitted to cutting corners was not getting the corner return on the tank. Really. All the time and effort and money, and you opted to save money on the tank itself. 50 gallons? You have the infrastructure for a 180.

I'm subscribing to this just to see how it turns out. Good luck with it. I'm sure with the same attention to stocking it and caring for it you'll have an amazing tank. I'm still just a bit dazed by what's gone into it.

Hi Frogman-

Different opinions are great, and I think that's what sparks such great debate around here. There's no one way to skin a cat in this, or any, hobby. I certainly don't claim that this is the way, especially since it's my first tank, only a way and in this case the way I chose to go. I hope that you're no suggesting that your way is the only way either. Given the varied builds on this site, I would bet that no one thinks this is the way you have to setup a system.

I wanted a tank that was very integrated into the surroundings with little equipment visible and ease of maintenance. I know it runs counter to the prevailing views here, but I really didn't want a bigger tank. I could have easily put a 150gal tank in that room, I know. First, I really didn't think it was appropriate for the design of the space. I also felt that for my first tank and the time I have, 50 gallons worth of maintenance, electricity usage, water changes, stocking etc. was more than enough for me to deal with. That 150gal tank would have needed a lot more lighting, bigger and more vortechs, bigger skimmer, bigger system pump, way more salt and dosing needs, much larger water changes etc. Maybe I'll regret it in the long run, but I just think it's a different approach.

That being said, I did want the tank to be very well supported by the infrastructure I put in place, regardless of the size. Part of that is because I am a huge nerd, and this is a really fun geeky project. Part of that was because I wanted a system that was very automated and could be left to run on it's own for chunks of time while I'm out of town. I basically looked at what was driving some of the most successful (in my opinion) tanks on RC and other sites, and took what I thought would work for me to create a completed and balanced system.

I'm glad you're following the thread and welcome your input. I too hope that the stocking and grow out of the tank go well and that my husbandry practices will line up with the work I put into the build.

Best,
Josh
 
question ...why do it over night?(is it to get the cycle going quicker?) im about to set up a tank with cured rocks but im going to use the shrimp method to get the ammonia spike. thats y im asking ..maybe a stupid question..

If I'm understanding correctly, you're asking about why ammonium chloride vs. the shrimp method? If so, mostly because I don't want to deal with any smell from the shrimp. It's still not an overnight process, as you essentially add ammonia in many doses, upping the amount each time. This feeds and grows the bacterial populations, and each time the ammonia buffering capacity of the system is strengthened. You can keep doing this until your biofilter can process a given amount of ammonia in a given time. Like ammonia reading of .5 in 24 hours, etc.


I hope Josh doesn't mind me jumping in here.....

For some of us (me anyway), its the planning and execution of a build that is fun as well. I only have a small tank (50G), and I had a lot of fun designing and building it. As you also said, the infrastructure is there for a bigger tank, so it will be an easy upgrade for him :bounce2:

I think that's a very good summation....

Well said Shaggs. Quality trumps quantity, in my opinion. I put almost a years worth of research and planning into a 29g tank and there are still a few things I would have done differently. Keep up the good work Josh!

I agree 100%. Different people have different approaches and aesthetics. My mild obsessiveness with learning all I can and then completing something all the way as well as with very clean, minimal design makes this approach work well for me.

SWEET Scape, very nice build and equipment list. Looking forward to some updated pics.

Harv, much appreciated. Can't wait to be able to post some new pics with more going on in there!

The aquascape sits just right in the tank that size. Very appealing. It gives me a lot of ideas. Keep having fun building it!

Higgy, thanks very much. I'm glad you've gotten some good ideas!
 
Well said Shaggs. Quality trumps quantity, in my opinion. I put almost a years worth of research and planning into a 29g tank and there are still a few things I would have done differently. Keep up the good work Josh!

me too! I've been putting together my 20" cube for more than 8 months now and it's just about ready. I've hastily put together too many tanks in the past, and the one I'm building now is taking so long, because I'm not going to make any of the mistakes I made in the past.
 
Creefer, thanks much, I appreciate it.


So, to start things off here's some updated pics of the tank. I realized I hadn't posted anything since the water cleared up.....

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wow that's a very nice aquascaping

what type of rock are you using ? what type of glue do you used to stock it like that ??

thanks
 
Agreed 100%, the build is half the fun for me, my current build (57 rimless with dual frag tanks) could have been much simpler but what would be the fun in that :)
 
x2 on the aquascaping .excelent

Thanks Robot!

wow that's a very nice aquascaping

what type of rock are you using ? what type of glue do you used to stock it like that ??

thanks

Hi Christian. The rock is a mix of BulkReefSupply Pukani and Shelf dry rock. I used a ton of DD epoxy to stick it all together. It took quite a bit of time and hacking get find shapes that fit together naturally though.

Agreed 100%, the build is half the fun for me, my current build (57 rimless with dual frag tanks) could have been much simpler but what would be the fun in that :)

+100 ;>

What are you plans for separate filtration for both of these units?

Hi Scott, that's still a big question in my mind. Given the space I have available, I'm thinking it will probably have to consist of some small HOB filters with pads seeded from the main tank, as well as lots of water changes. I'm definitely looking for ideas/options though.
 
I Did not really mean "overnight" lol but quicker results, as in you saw traces of ammonia at faster rate than any other method. I was not really familiar with the ammonia dosing method, but it makes perfect sence :) and IMO it's the same concept just with out the shrimp like you said lol . Thank you for the explination and the mini lesson hahaha
Btw I'm setting up a 60g cube that everyone asks me about b/c "it's taking too long" empty and it's only been in my house 4 months lol and planning like 6 lol.
 
I Did not really mean "overnight" lol but quicker results, as in you saw traces of ammonia at faster rate than any other method. I was not really familiar with the ammonia dosing method, but it makes perfect sence :) and IMO it's the same concept just with out the shrimp like you said lol . Thank you for the explination and the mini lesson hahaha
Btw I'm setting up a 60g cube that everyone asks me about b/c "it's taking too long" empty and it's only been in my house 4 months lol and planning like 6 lol.

I'm certainly not one to be giving lessons, just feeling my way through this myself :D :reading:

Just ignore everyone who tells you it's taking to long, that's what I did and still do! People seriously are almost appalled when I tell them I'm waiting 2-3 months before I add fish or coral (non-reef geek people). :spin3:
 
I'm certainly not one to be giving lessons, just feeling my way through this myself :D :reading:

Just ignore everyone who tells you it's taking to long, that's what I did and still do! People seriously are almost appalled when I tell them I'm waiting 2-3 months before I add fish or coral (non-reef geek people). :spin3:

I love your thread. I'm doing everything with the tank I'm putting together that you are with yours, only everything you're doing is better and more detailed than myself (your stand/cabinet is much, much, much nicer than mine). I'm glad to see we're not the only ones taking our time and doing things right... the first time. The only thing that shouldn't take me too long is cycling the tank. I've been cycling my dry rock in a tub since September, but I still won't add any fish or corals to my tank for at least 2 months after I set it up. I love your thread and keep up the good work. :thumbsup:
 
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