Montgomery Reefstore.......Let's Talk about them

Broreefr

In Memoriam
I know there are Reef People in the Montgomery Area. There are too many salt water dealers not to have customers. A recent thread was started inquiring about stores in the area. Not many responded, those who did had not nothing positive to say, I was one of them.

I dont do a lot of posting, but I do quite a bit of reading. I believe if you dont know well you just dont know but you dont give improper or wrong advice, once that happens your credability is shot with me.

Our local montgomery reef store isnt a whole lot but its all we got so I try and support it.

I tried to support it when I was setting up my first tank and the owner, after seeing me eyeing a particular piece of live rock came over took over the sale and said dont take it out of the water, that's sponge on there and you dont want it to come out the tank and catch air - just give me $$$ for it and we will bag it here. I spent several weeks watching that sponge die and pollute my tank, praying for it, wondering about it before reading some info on curing live rock. I was new and didnt know

I tried to support them when the owner told me "you dont want a big tank, what you want is this 180 gallon. Big tanks are too much trouble" His former employee told me he pushes the 180's cause thats where his profit margin is highest.

I tried to support him through a bunch of uninvited BAD advice he laid on you every time you came in.

I have even tried to support him though his childish pouting he has been laying on me every since I bought my big tank elsewhere.

I believe I now need help!

I went in yesterday to pick up 2 large corals (Toadstool leathers) that I had left a deposit with said owner for. approximate value of the 2 corals would have been in excess of three hundred big ones. I told his employee please ring em up before he comes over, too late. As the employee was attempting to weigh a piece of rock attached to the leather (11 lbs told you they were big uns) he comes and takes over. These are to big for a bag he declares -true - we will have to put it in a bucket. The employee does, an old salt bucket.

On the way to the counter to check out, the owner say's "when am I going to get my bucket back," A little taken aback I say "oh I'll get it back to you as quick as I can," without taking a breath he says "can you get it back to me this week" I say "well I live about 30 miles away and dont plan on making a 60 mile round trip to return a bucket" "well what about next week, I need it back" I say with all do respect, its a used salt bucket, I am sure you,ve got piles of em back there, I have got several I dont need at my house" "No I dont cause people take em and say they will but never return them. I say "look, you are selling me some expensive livestock here and it kinda should be your concern to provide the customer with a way to transport his products home. By now his employee looks as if he wanted to shrink up. I said I tell you what, just sell me the one leather without the rock and bag it and I will be on my way. No that wasnt the deal, you said you were gonna buy both of them. I said I am not gonna buy something that you will not provide me a way to take it home.

Long story short....er. He wouldnt sell me one leather unless I bought the other as well ( with no way to transport it, short of kissing his....hand) I asked for my deposit back, he first tried to short me on it then finally returned it in full. His true feelings came out and he vented about the past, then invited me to leave his establishment. I did and politely waved good bye minus a few fingers.

Thing is people I still, through all this want to support my LFS.

It is apparant to me that used salt buckets are much more important than selling 3 bills worth of corals so I would ask that all local reefer's please take your used buckets by ( I know I will) so he can continue to provide a valuable service to the community. :lol:
 
I wished I could of been there to see that. There is a shop here in Huntsville that has outrageous prices on there equipment and fish... I don't know if anyone supports them with prices like that. Fish are one thing, but when you are paying about 40%-75% more for equipment, sorry pal, I'll get mine from online...
 
I can see it in my head as if I were there. I've dealt with this owner a couple times as he tried to talk me out of my planned MH lighting and go with 440w VHO, among other things.

I won't even go into the other stories I've heard regarding him. But that story fits the bill. Not suprised at all :)
 
Sounds like Ole Jim over there at you know where.

If I am right...well I have stories to tell amoung other things. Needless to say the guy is an arrogant ***** that can't get it through his head that people don't want a pink looking tank.

He personally attacked me and really badgered a good friend of mine who also did his little "setup" deal.

I am no longer afraid to say it nor will I retract my statement here, Jim you could have a hell of a store and very loyal customer base if it wasn't for your ostrich attitude and your greed to make a buck. I realize you have to make a living but you screw your customers, over charge the hell out of them and give bogus un founded advise like you read it out of a book.

I have had to close a thread on an occasion because he came after me when one of his ballasts that he had sold a customer went wheels up and almost started a fire in my living room. He later resulted to personal attacks and slander like it is just another day in the office. After several very nasty comments and some very bitter feelings being spread I swore to never buy another damn thing from him again even if it meant my tank going under.

As far as I am concered I will take my business anywhere but there. That is why I either drive to Atlanta or B-ham.
 
apparently he spews his HUGE ego on all his customers....err former customers.

I often wonder HOW people like that can maintain a Business, but I suppose some will drink with a snake as long as he doesnt bite TOO hard when he passes the bottle.

Montgomery's Moron causes B-ham and ATL's further Gain
 
I swear by Capuccino Bay in Atlanta...they are awesome, and always evolving. Right now they are experimenting with a big brand new tank that has a Sola Tube over it for growth of SPS. I have never seen another store with as much awesome looking sps, lps, and softies.
 
Absolutely the Bay has a very, very nice selection. Was there last week for the reef club meeting, even won a starfish.

Marine fish is also there in Marietta and their selection is very good as well. I dont know, but there's something about the 600 gallon reef greeting you at the door, sharks in another tank, and a 2 foot Grouper that they are growing to donate to the Georgia Aquarium that tends to scream at you - WE KINDA KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. LOL marinefish.net
 
Yep Marine Fish is #1 on my list. I go there about once a month just to see what cool things they have. The store is very clean and the staff is very helpful. They are now sellin-g Phillips Frags there too. They are having a HUGE SALE on the 28-29 of this month. I will be there. Hope to see ya'll too.
 
Yup I really like Marine Fish, always go there. and stop mentioning the huge sale I wanted to get some bargains :D
 
WHAT ..... HUGE sale at marinefish on the 28 and 29th. And me with Marine fish dollars in my wallet from the last trip. I also seem to have a few extra real dollars in the reef budget too, thanks to ole Jim.

Guess I will have to go early on the 28th to beat the Alabama onset. :lol:
And you are right. They are selling Phillips Frag's there. When I told the Manager that I was from Bama, he made it a point to show them to me and proudly say where they were from. Apparently Mr. Phillip's reputation is growing, I understand that his frags are sold all over the southeast with a BIG concentration going to Atlanta area frag DEALERS.

And to think, We may one day be able to say, we knew him when he was chopping frags by him self in the back of A.D. :lol:
 
Ole Jim amazingly sounds just like someone I onced knew that owns a store here in B'ham. He doesn't care whether customers come back as long as he gets every penny possible out of them that one time. He once sold a 4 inch clown trigger to an old customer that has a 12 gallon nanos that has other fish and shrimp. He hates nanos cause it cost him more to get and encourages everyone that the odessys are the best. He doesn't want to buy a R/O unit cause thinks its a waste of time and tries to sell everyone that nutri-sea $^%* as salt water. He even go as far as to rip his long time custmers and friends on things they can't have or need. I often get scared to leave there on my off day cause of what might happen. And of course when unhappy customers return because of what he says guess who he takes them too.....me.
 
Ole Jim amazingly sounds just like someone I onced knew that owns a store here in B'ham. He doesn't care whether customers come back as long as he gets every penny possible out of them that one time. He once sold a 4 inch clown trigger to an old customer that has a 12 gallon nanos that has other fish and shrimp. He hates nanos cause it cost him more to get and encourages everyone that the odessys are the best. He doesn't want to buy a R/O unit cause thinks its a waste of time and tries to sell everyone that nutri-sea $^%* as salt water. He even go as far as to rip his long time custmers and friends on things they can't have or need. I often get scared to leave there on my off day cause of what might happen. And of course when unhappy customers return because of what he says guess who he takes them too.....me.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7792694#post7792694 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Broreefr
WHAT ..... HUGE sale at marinefish on the 28 and 29th. And me with Marine fish dollars in my wallet from the last trip. I also seem to have a few extra real dollars in the reef budget too, thanks to ole Jim.

Guess I will have to go early on the 28th to beat the Alabama onset. :lol:
And you are right. They are selling Phillips Frag's there. When I told the Manager that I was from Bama, he made it a point to show them to me and proudly say where they were from. Apparently Mr. Phillip's reputation is growing, I understand that his frags are sold all over the southeast with a BIG concentration going to Atlanta area frag DEALERS.

And to think, We may one day be able to say, we knew him when he was chopping frags by him self in the back of A.D. :lol:

Guess I'll go up the night before, stay with the In-laws and get their early :)
 
Im assumeing this is Jessie, T told me about the bucket thing the other day.Jim never ceases to amaze me. You will be missed up there, by is employees atleast. I hate i will not get a chance to see the new reef and predator tanks mature. Any way best of luck to you.
 
You know that brings up another point...the people who work for Jim are usually nice as can be, and give better advice then he....On several occasions I have spoken with some of the other guys up there that have been fun to shoot the breeze with and compare notes...it just sucks for them because of what they are overshadowed by.

Maybe Jim should take a very long sabatical or just sell the store to someone else...because obviously the fish business is stressing him out.
 
Well here i thought the problem with Jim was " ME " :lol:
it was the type of rock i used.
the MH fixtures i got from the internet
the skimmer won't work { ams 4+ } it's TO big
to much sand
wrong salt.
you don't need this you need that.


happy to learn I'm not the only one that has problems with Jim and his large ego.

Ps. Millbrook / Prattville has a store on 14 right off of 65. he can't keep salt water stuff it sell's out as soon as he get's it.
 
I have been to petsville off I-65 as well they seems to be good people, even DOUBLE bagged some corals for me at NO extra charge (LOL).

The EGO thing with jim is something else, and it may be different if he sported a marine biology degree to back up the talk but he's a computer programmer turned bad store owner.

If montgomery is lucky some nice young Auburn Grad student (hint hint) will throw up a shingle and ease his $#@@ back to the keyboard
 
Yea maybe so, He has often talked about selling the store but never too seriously. I have a feeling his asking price would be far out of the realm of resonable anyway. Im definately not defending Jim but he has def changed sense he opened his first shop. He has just lost intrested for the most part and hardly maintains his systems at home anymore from what i understand. Despite this he discourages his employees to talk to customers at all. After all as he says "i try not to overwealm you but i just know everything you could possibly know about this" EGO at its worse.

Anyway how is this petsville you speak of? With a name like that i have to admit im skeptical but maybe its worth checking out.

Oh, and Broreefr did ya get my PM? not that it was all that important but i thought i would ask anywya =)
 
Hey Tiger yeah I got the pm just now read it. I wasnt familiar enough with the t5's and really beat my head over this lighting thing, I decided to go with a retro unit, 3 mh and the pc's mainly because i didnt want to jump out on a limb I may find too weak to support my massive weight.

glad you caught the hint in the last post (LOL)

Petsville in prattville is a decent enough store, clean and appears above board for sure. If your in the area I would surely check em out. dont think they REALLY would be worth a dedicated drive over there just to see though.

pm sent concerning live rock.
 
Yea, the actinics really are not going to be a big deal its really just a personal prefrence of color what mattered was the MH and ya sure as hell got that right =)
 
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