Moray Eel advice

Titan*69

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Currently I've got a 100 comunity, a species only Undulated tank, and a 40QT all currently running. I've got some contract issues at work an if not on strike I'll be purchasing a 200GL for my community upgrade. I was looking at the Fimbriated Moray as they are an attractive Eel and reportedly very active. In turn I was reccomended they have a 110GL or bigger. I'm not sure if I want a 6' tank, a 54" tank, and a 4' tank all running in my house at once. I was looking at something in the 3x3 135 cube for a possible Eel tank. It will be a species only Eel tank as I'll have to go with a fish eater rather than a crustacian eater. I don't have readily access to live fiddler crabs, but rather top quality fresh from the sea food.The Eel itself would not be suited to my community as I've got some nippy Triggerfish, it'd be a risk to the Eel, and on the flip side a risk to the fish. The Goldentail's are very nice, as are the DME's. Suggestions........?
 
Hi Titan, in a PM I requested that you posted this for good reason, to allow others to voice an opinion. Now I said i would have some answer for you from your PM questions and without further ado, here you are :D

I'm trying to gather as much info on the setting of a moray tank, so when the time comes I'll be prepared

That`s great, then maybe I can assist you on some thoughts to this. You see that for the eels I have that my tanks are loaded with lots of LR for as well it only houses a pair of eels in both tanks, not to mention a number of damsels that I use for eels are messy eaters.

Just as well, the idea in a yellowhead moray, you want as enough LR you can in giving this eel as much hiding places as well open area so being as it may, the yellowhead is a very active eel and the larger the tank can be the better.

Unlike the idea in what I do with damsels with my eels, it not be so good of an idea with a yellowhead so with this I can suggest to you not to have so deep a sand bed, like not more then 2.0" and be careful for the more LR one has the more currents be needed.

As you seen that my eel tanks have lots of LR and if you may tell not so deep a sand bed for I not know if you readied all I mentioned of these tank that they were moved more then 19 months ago and only twice I cleaned some by hand inside the tanks.

For as these eel tanks have a light bio load and both pair of eels I feed only once a week but this yellowhead you feed on average every 4th day and feed until it refuses any more feeding.
In this you will be needing a feeding stick, you might check and see the type of spear I made to feed my eels with>

Eels like the yellowhead and blackedge will attack your hand on sight when hungry so the idea of a tank 3x3', I would rather if I did this go with a 5' 125. and the most perfect time when you need to clean in this tank would be right after the eel had feeded and do avoid to near to the eels lair.

You will need to do with the glass covering is duct tape across the back of it and when you start to look in putting this tank together, being that you will get the yellowhead as young a juvenile you can, have your LFS measure the overflow box to fit as flush to the glass cover they can, this will prevent this route from becoming an escape passage.

The fimbriated compare to my eels I now do require more space ;) It`s not they require lots of swimming space for it`s rather to how active the eel is to anything else for it`s the same thing for the Tess and green morays, they need so much room over all in tank space that they can never manage to move around much once they ever reach their adult size for yes, the green smallest size is around six feet and can grow larger for as well the Tess, this animal is something to see if you ever go diving and not be afraid for if you`re in the swimming path of one these eels, they will swim right past you between your legs. The tank I would setup for a Tess would be not less then 2500 gals and the more the better for the LR would need to be huge pieces and as well bolted into position to build the Tess morays lair.
But back on your issues at hand :)

The idea of the 135 (3x3) is good for many eels, I just not feel as comfortable when the fimbriated reaches full size for yes, it grows no larger then my DME`s but it is one the most active eels around that people are always asking for.

I live in a fair sized city, but here it's reef madness
Nothing wrong with that :)

The reason I want the Eel alone, is I'm more likely looking at a fish eater not crustecian
The fimbriated does feed on crustacean as well and I say Titan, if anyone cannot feed this fimbriated moray, they can feed no eel. LOL :rollface:

I have no resource for live fiddlers
You can find one or more on line for if I was to own an SF or zebra moray, I would have up a 30 or 40 gal tank only to keep on hand as many crabs I can.

Titan, if you really want to have a DME, why don`t you check with all the LFS around you? And do be careful on the price.

I have to admit that I not know this H&S skimmer, but I do know of the ER skimmer, I have the ER on all my tanks and even the 40 breeder (QT)

So Titan, you want your eel tank to be completed before you get your eel of choice>

Buddy ><{{{{">

PS. Titan, you need to space your lines for it does somewhat give me a minor problem to understand everything your looking for info on :(
 
Buddy what would you suggest as a lifer tank size for a Goldentail?

How about a DME?

Or a whitemouth?

I'd prefer a more cubish tank as my house is being bunged up with systems, and if this sickness continues I'll have to move out to my garage...Lol
 
As you know I a pair of goldentails in a 70 gal tank with a small number of damsels with lots of LR but as for the average small size tank for one I go with a 55 and larger when you be looking to add any number of fish.

A DME not really moves about for not to many morays do like the blackedge and yellowhead and not to mention the Tess and Green morays. For a goldentail you would see more often then a DME and a whitemouth as an adult would need a larger tank for can reach the size of 120cm and I not go with anything smaller then a 130 by itself.

As your idea for a cube tank, the goldentails be great for that tank, a pair if you a thought to think about it ;) You do need however to speak now of other inhabitants for this tank if a the mind to house some other marine species.

Buddy
 
It'd be nice to have some herbivours so I wouldn't have to stick my hand in the tank too often...Lol

I'd more or less be looking for Eel only, maybe some yellow tails to clean up any feeding debris.
 
Hey guys, I'm tagging along. I'm in the process of pumbing a AGA 120 gallon tank with a 40 gallon sump. I'm sort of new to the preditor tank talk. Great info DragonMorayEels.:)
I'm sorta looking for the yellow bannana morey, they stay small, fish eaters, and great color. I was thinking of housing it with a smallish Lionfish and a Regal Angel. I'm thinking plenty of LR, use a 4inch PVC "L" shaped in the sand for eel housing, Cheato in the sump. Need to invest in a skimmer (maybe an ASMG3??) . Anythoughts....
 
herbivores

Titan my son, you not find this among the moray species, perhaps you care to try your luck with some dinosaur :D

Need to invest in a skimmer (maybe an ASMG3??) . Anythoughts....

Sorry young man, Im afraid that I can offer you nothing on that skimmer, I never used it :o

But I am sure that there be a good many here in RC who can assist you in just that :)
 
Thanks anyways Dragon. I Going with the fish eaters in the Moray family. That way i can keep a clean-up crew..like turbo snails, etc.
Dragon, So do you feel golden tails move around plenty? Not too shy? I might want to look into one of those.
Any other experinces with other eels???
Sorry I was trying to folow the thread, but what eel is a DME?
Thanks,
Eric
 
For one thing all eels eat meat of one kind of another but for you question, eels behavior can and will differ from one hobbyists tank to another for my eels are the only main species then their tanks. This again is boring for the majority of people.

For the goldentails tend to move about and I not mean they do this 24/7 so please do not misunderstand me. But the goldentails will move more about, and more so if a pair is the only inhabitants in your tank.




Any other experinces with other eels???

I not the time to say much on this, but in short, I had at most times for so many years some 5-6 eels at a time and exchanging one after 3 to 5 or 6 years top get another eel species but at most I have to say I had at least some 150 species in some 60 years for my first eel was the SF. And that was at the ripe old age of, gosh, I cannot remember the exact age but it was sometime before I was 12.

I done that for all those years before I moved down to NC from NY almost 14 years ago and real soon I will have my female DME for 13 years, this June will mark the 13th year that I had Julie.

Sorry I was trying to folow the thread, but what eel is a DME?

That`s a Dragon Moray Eels :D

Buddy :)
 
DME....LOL..Duuuuhhh :)
How obvious
I don't expect to see much movement, but I have read that some eels tend to be s little more shy than others.
Well, looks like I still have plenty of time to research. Thank You for your input.
Eric
 
You see Eric, it depends much on what type of tank you be looking for as well the same species can be of a different behavior from a species only tank to all types of other fish mixed in with it for like the goldentail will be less active over all if I was to have any number of other fish in their tank but as for the DME, at most times you see nothing more then it`s head sticking out from the rocks.

Years ago for the better part of 45 years that at any one time I had on hand some 5-6 eels and depending on the type of eel i would return it to get another species I not kept before for in any case, you will have some differences to gain, but not much for the other thing back then the most one could learn on one species was what little they wrote in books for still just the same, this continues today for even that book, "Keeping Moray Eels" In Aquariums. Only it has something differ to offer to the beginner and that is warnings on certain problems that can happen.

The book only cost like $12.95 and I suggest if you to be interested in keeping moray eels.

The other thing with DME are, they always seem to be more active when young juveniles then when full grown adults.

It wasn't until that I moved down to NC that I then decided to get certain eel species and keep them for their entire lives and my number one choice was the DME :)

Buddy
 

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