Morbidity and Mortality

[AirForceAquariu]

So doctors do things such as this after a strange or unusual patient death. I would like to do the same for my recent loss. Some of you saw the posts: I had about a Bipartius in QT and was extremely excited for my dream fish. Unfortunately, she died today. Here is the story:

I arrived home from work and was extremely excited to catch a glimpse of my Bipartius wrasse out. I quickly realized she was upside down and seemed to be breathing rapidly. She was also swimming in counterclockwise circles and seemed unable to turn the other way. Her motions were sudden and rapid. Several fast turns in one direction followed by sitting still and heavy breathing. I rushed to perform a 25% water change with water I had prepared earlier. While I did so she ceased breathing and began drifting. I left her for awhile but she went rigid and I confirmed she had expired.

Parameters: all tested after water change since I was in a hurry before. I had an ammo badge on the tank which had not fired.
Amm: 0
Nitrite:0
Nitrate:10
Alk 9.2
P: 0
Mag: not tested

Prior to this I had not seen her out since Saturday. The first 4 days I had her she was out every day and eating frozen greedily. After that she went in to hiding.

Tank Mates (30g): Flame Angel (also needed QT from fallow tank), Midas Blenny, 2 A occelaris. All were fine before the water change and are fine after (45mins now)

I know it's summer and it's dead but please chime in if you have a moment. I am going to go have a few brews and let this wash off of me, but will chime in again tonight.

 

[bobkill]

Might of been out of ur hands - sometimes fish implode for very little reason- water parameters look okay so who knows

 

[Deinonych]

Tank Mates (30g): Flame Angel (also needed QT from fallow tank)

Can you explain in more detail what is going on with the Flame? Was it clear of whatever ailment it had prior? Wondering if maybe it was not free of disease and infected the wrasse.

It's possible there could have been some bullying by the angelfish or possibly the clowns (depending on maturity).

 

[AirForceAquariu]

It was treated (well... put through TTM) for ich. The sudden onset of symptoms and method of death don't seem to be consistent. It's tank mates don't show the usual signs (flashing, spots, or heavy breathing).

As for aggression: The Flame is a bit pushy but there were no red marks or fin tears. When I observed the leopard out the first few days there was almost no aggression. Seemed she was mostly ignored.

Thanks for the help so far. I just want to be certain it wasn't something I did or fix whatever I did wrong before I try again. Next time she will certainly have a QT of ehr own.

 

[eatbreakfast]

The symptoms you described are quite common in small and md leopard wrasses. It occurs relatively shortlyafter being shipped. They will arrive, seem fine for a couple of days, then suddenly stay buried more than normal and when they do come up either swim in circles, swim disoriently, or lay down. I hypothesize that it is residual from shipping stress and is comparable to a stroke. Unfortunately once these symptoms are seen there is little that can be done.

 

[snorvich]

The symptoms you described are quite common in small and md leopard wrasses. It occurs relatively shortlyafter being shipped. They will arrive, seem fine for a couple of days, then suddenly stay buried more than normal and when they do come up either swim in circles, swim disoriently, or lay down. I hypothesize that it is residual from shipping stress and is comparable to a stroke. Unfortunately once these symptoms are seen there is little that can be done.

I agree. My success thresholds with leopards are two fold: one week and one month. If you make it past a month you are going to be in pretty good shape.

 

[arashsheikhpoor]

Leoprads are def very finicky, I honestly got lucky and had 3 out of 4 live (a pair were recently starved to death by the current leopards). I Usually don't qt them as I've been told to forgoe the process with leopards since they are very sensitive.

 

[AirForceAquariu]

Well it is at least comforting to know that I didn't somehow kill it. A bipartius is one of my dream fish so I hope to try again sometime. Maybe in a few months if I can find another healthy (at least seemingly) specimen.