moving sump to the basement- Any suggestions?

[jh2pizza]

We are currently in the planning process of moving our sump and equipment to the basement. The room is aprox 28 feet away and the standard 8" drop. This is in preparation to change out our in the wall 75 to a 180 in wall set up. Planning on running a through the wall power vent hooked up to a heat/humidity control. Running a 120v / 60 amp panel for power. How do I size the drains? I want to run two separate runs incase of blockage, etc. the return. I am using a Pan World PS200 pressure rated return pump. Do I run 1" (the same as the output of the pump) or do I increase it or decrease it?

As far as framing. We are just painting two of the walls that are poured concrete with a good epoxy paint and framing up the other walls with treated bottom plate siliconed for a seal and not cutting it out in the doorway. the newer drywall without paper so no mold can grow covered with FRP panels. Hate to have salt all over the basement.

What am I missing? Im sure you folks that have done this already have a bunch of " If I did this over again, I would"

 

[grunfeld]

Basement Sump....

Basement Sump....

I run a basement sump (times 2 actually)....but nowhere near the 28' horizontal distance you're going to deal with.....

I do fight a bit of head as I have 10' ceilings....

I figure my sumps are on a stand that's 3' high leaving vertical head of 7' to the trusses, 1' to the floorboards and another 5' to the top of the return....

Originaly, I went with a mag 18 and 3/4" lines for velocity....bad idea....

I've been running a GRI 14520 pressure rated for 3 solid years...

first I had 3/4" returns......OK

then I went to 1"...got better.....

finally, I replumbed with 1-1/4" but used 1-1/2 true union valves (look inside a 1-1/4" and a 1-1/2" and you'll see why I did it).....

the performance is tremendous....I run 2 outlets.....one pushes a hydor rotating device...the other pushes thru a penductor......add that to my Tunze 6000 and it rocks......

I'd recommend you oversize the plumbing and gain volume and velocity with penductors/eductors.....

now, that said, I wonder how big a pump you're gonna need to push water 20+ feet horizontally and 8-14' vertically (not counting elbows)......

if it will service sump and tank flow, you're too small...

if you have a separate circulation set-up, you're probably OK, depending, of course, on your water processing plans in the sump

Grunfeld in Detroit

P. S. I'd worry less about the mold and more about having a floor drain very close to the basement set-up......

 

[jh2pizza]

We did jack hammer the floor last night and install a floor drain. Wife monster was not real excited about it. (home 8 yrs old), but go tit done. I ended up with 1.5" return, 2 1.5" drains, one for back up and I noticed the same thing about the valves and unions, so we went with 2" and adapted up. should have it framed and wired by tomorrow night.

 

[grunfeld]

Good Choices....

Good Choices....

I reviewed the specs on the PS200.....should work fine...congrats on the basement drain....wifey-mine has accepted the new drain concept as we redo and recarpet the basement shortly.....

your drains should be more than adequate....I have 2 1" drains with 1-1/4" dursos feeding them.....no issues in 3 years....well, only one but it was with the return line ... when I took a return line off to clean it out and a stupid astrea fell into the return line hole and lodged in the valve......what a mess!

By the way.....check out the pendustors...you'll be glad you did

Best of luck

Grunfeld