Mr4000 is back but w/o tank

Mr 4000:

NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK.


Sixxer:

There is no need to tear out the sheetrock and replace with greenboard.

Just put the vapor barrier and greenboard over the existing sheetrock.

Best,

Brian
 
Mr 4000 thats what i call a reeftank :D

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Thanks

Thanks

Mr 4000, Thank's for being a pioneer.
Without people like you having the courage to share your experiences serious issues would be overlooked.
I remember when your system was being built and was saddened to hear of its demise.
Thank's for comming back and being willing to share.
 
Having Central A/C installed a couple of G, having a return installed above your tank to remove humidity and heat back to the air handler where it drips out the port to your gutters, priceless... ;)
 
Mr. 4K, did you laminate the two pieces of acrylic together for your window or did the shop do it? What are the steps and materials involved if one would go about doing this?
 
KDodds said:
Having Central A/C installed a couple of G, having a return installed above your tank to remove humidity and heat back to the air handler where it drips out the port to your gutters, priceless... ;)
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Great concept...if air handlers were made of PCV. I think that exposure to saltwater would cause the aluminum coil in the air handler to deteriorate so fast that withing a couple months you'd have 5 pounds or more of freon whiff into your tank killing everything in it and getting everybody in the house quite stoned. not to mention the steel sheetmetal that the air handler is made of would rust quickly.

Now then I'm not knocking your idea I think it has great possibility. just needs some workthrough.
 
I think that exposure to saltwater would cause the aluminum coil in the air handler to deteriorate
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:)

I really don't see this happening as what the return will be sucking in is humid air. The saltwater stays in the aquarium.

:)
 
CaptainCoral said:
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I really don't see this happening as what the return will be sucking in is humid air. The saltwater stays in the aquarium.

:)
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Ahh you'd think so but think about this...doesn't saltwater stay in the ocean? I lived on the island of Okinawa for 4 years. when I first got there I got a brand new mitsubishi galant. when I left 4 years later it was ready to be junked because of rust. I didn't test it as a submarine...the saltwater was present and caused the metals to rust.
 
CaptainCoral said:
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I really don't see this happening as what the return will be sucking in is humid air. The saltwater stays in the aquarium.

:)
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Then how do you explain the rusting/deterioration of hardware that is used to build stands. I know that the hinges of my cabinet doors on my aquarium are quite corroded, but never come in direct contact of the saltwater. How do you explain this?

I know where you're coming from, but water is not stagnant in these tanks and when water is splashed, circulated, etc. salt spray will kill anything metallic.
 
Well, I am going to resurect an old thread, but I learned something from Mr. 4000s experence.

I really appreciate my 37 gallon tank more!!!

LOL! Seriously though, Mr. 4000, I can understand that nothing can measure up to a 4000 gallon tank, but the rest of us really enjoy our small systems, and I am sure that you will grow to love a more managable system as well.
 
With what you are doing I think your idea of another SpectraPure is on the mark. Honestly they would not be around if they were just selling an overpriced unit.
If you are happy with the current system from them, saving $100 and having to track 2 sets of filters etc just is not worth it when you thousands invested in the setup anyway.
I think you need to keep your maintainance as simple as possible.

They certainly have some nice systems at any rate.
 
Yikes! For the price tag on one of these humongo reefs you could be well on your way to living in luxury in the Cayman Islands with a trillion gallon reef at your back porch; including live sharks and barracuda! ;) :)

Seriously though, you show much dedication to the hobby! I'll stick with my 180g for now. :)

-Nathan
 
Originally posted by Mr.4000 ...I used a 2 part epoxy paint that they use on swimming pools that had a life expectancy of 12 years outside so i figured it would hold up that long outside it would last longer inside. I have tons of pictures i will dig up and get posted on here.
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Please, pretty please do dig up your old notes and photos. I, and I'm sure others, are very, very interested in how you did things. I'm planning a large tank made of cement and with glazing in the upper portion of the water column in the new house we're building soon. I would like to learn from what you did - both your successes and failures. The little bit I was able to find in the Internet Archives Way Back Machine of your old web site was very enticing! It was exciting to find this thread and wonderful to know that you're back in the swim of things even if tankless!

My background: I've been keeping aquariums for about 30 years and reefs for about ten years. I plan to build everything possible myself, both for financial reasons but more importantly because I enjoy the process. I have experience with construction and concrete as well as glass tanks (and a little bit of building with acrylic tanks).

Some specific questions:

1) How did it work out using multiple layers of acrylic? Did you laminated them? Any problem with this? Did water get between the layers?

2) Can you talk about how you sealed your glazing and issues related to the multiple layers?

3) What epoxy paint did you use on the concrete?

4) Did you use any admixes in your concrete? What slump did you use? Aggregate? Or neat?

5) What did you do about curing of the concrete and pH balancing?

6) Did you use epoxy coated rebar or standard rebar?

7) Did you have any problems with rusting of the rebar? When you cut out the section after dismantling how did the rebar look? My primary concern comes from the salt environment. Did you do anything special to protect the iron from the salt?

8) Did you vibrate or use a self leveling concrete?

9) I saw you mention that you used fiberglass in the concrete. Was it coated? Any issues with it?

10) I saw your note about skylights. I have kept tanks in our southern windows for years with excellent results and am planning to do a sky-lit tank. In our climate overheating isn't an issue and in our location the mountain blocks a significant portion of the western sky. I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on natural lighting, skylights, etc for reef tanks.

11) Did you ever have any problems with reactions to your tank inhabitants (e.g., stings, hives, bacterial infections, etc) from diving in your tank?

I apologize for so many questions. I have tons more. I am ever so fascinated by your project and wish to learn from it before I embark on my own large tank.

Sincerely,

-Walter
in Vermont
 
That danish guy is killing me! He uses 2 boat propellers for circulation! says it only takes 150 watts to power them, pretty good.
 
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