multiple different morphs of the same named zoa?

[surfnvb7]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=862354

i know i've been seeing alot of this lately, esspecially with safecrackers. and sorry, i just dont agree with the assesment there are multiple different morphs of the same named zoa.

it either IS, or it ISN'T. esspecially if it came and was named by a particular person.

i'm not questioning this seller/traders integreity on that specific thread though.

but to me, by saying as long as its off by a couple of shades and patterns is not an acceptable excuse for calling it the same thing. to me, that sounds like shaddy sales tactics to mislead gullable customers such as we are now seeing on ebay, and some other online sites. and ESSPECIALLY in some LFS.

again, not saying this person is being dishonest, b/c apparently he beleived what was sold to him was the real safecrackers also....

i know alot of people like the naming of zoanthids thing. but it comes with some downsides. as the unkowing consumer will buy, and propagate without really knowing sometimes if they truely have the correctly named morph.....

.....w/ all of that said....i can think of RPE's, and GPE's in which there may be a couple of different morphs. some of them have stripes, and some are completely solid. but in this case, the name describes it accurately anyways, its still red, and is still a people eater....

so i dunno, i guess its buyer beware, and make sure you get a clear and accurate picture before you buy.

 

[Chemguy85]

i totally agree with you Alex. The thread that you linked shows a great example of what you are talking about. THEPHISHGUY's zoas are definatly not safecrackers not even close. The wild caught PPE are another example of this. Even though they say wild caught the people who bought them are going to sell them as PPE because they have grown out the coral and made frags. And it just goes to show that this doesn't only happen on Ebay. Ben

 

[Azurel]

Nail on head......

 

[tekknoschtev]

Re: multiple different morphs of the same named zoa?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7591290#post7591290 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by surfnvb7
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=862354
but to me, by saying as long as its off by a couple of shades and patterns is not an acceptable excuse for calling it the same thing. to me, that sounds like shaddy sales tactics to mislead gullable customers such as we are now seeing on ebay, and some other online sites. and ESSPECIALLY in some LFS.

so i dunno, i guess its buyer beware, and make sure you get a clear and accurate picture before you buy.

I think thats exactly part of the problem with naming zoas. While I can see where naming can be a benefit, there are instances where things get muddy and dont exactly jive. Then the excuse comes to lighting being different. When all is said and done, the name is useless in my mind other than for getting a very general idea of what you're getting. Thats why with just about anything I think its best to get a picture of the exact frag you'll be recieving, or in a worst case scenerio, the mother colony of where the frag came from. I know when I sell my zoas, I post pictures as WYSIWYG, to avoid confusion in that area.

It definately is a buyer beware thing. There have been several threads hashed and rehashed over about naming, but I think the whole mentality of "unless it came from fill in the blank, then its not the real deal" is really kind of a joke put in place soley for sales. I dont know if this is where you wanted the thread to go, but I just thought I'd share my opinion.