My 125 Re-Build

Here is an updated picture of my sump. Added the Macroalgae that luckyfish brought by this morning. I had bought a plastic basket for holding it. Trimmed a hole in it to fit over the returns from the simmer tub and now it tumbles around nicely. Should be even nicer action once I add the new pump and increase the flow.

The plastic bag floating in the skimmer tub is 6 new peppermint shrimps acclimating.

 
Just a word of wisdom, Make sure that shop light Is secure and can't get knocked in the sump by critters or human kids. You will not like the results If It fell In while on!!! Other than that It looks good.
 
The light is zip tied to the skimmer tub. Would take a big bump to get knocked in. Eventually I will build a solid shelf above the sum which will allow for a more convenient way to mount it.
 
As per my plumbing thread, I decided to try to increase the flow from my sump. My initial thought was to buy two Quiet One 4000 HH's or 5000's to replace the existing 3000's in use. Based on price, advice and a whim, I purchased a single 9000 instead.

After a few design changes and refinements, again based on great advice (Especially Andy) I finished the plumbing this morning. After waiting an appropriate amount of time for everything to setup, I made the final connections for the returns.

The flow seems to be pretty good. Definitely more than before, but not overpowering. I can even run a few accessories of the bypass manifold without dropping the flow below previous levels.

My only complaint is the sound of the pump. It hums quite loudly. I could not even hear the previous 3000's. With the 9000, I can hear the hum on the other side of the wall. I have tried moving it around a little without much difference. Holding it up so that it does not touch the sump bottom only stops a little amount of reverberation noise.

Not sure if there is anything I can do about this. Maybe create a short flex joint below the union to reduce sound in the pipe? I need to do some research and thinking.

2nd issue is surging in the drains. This occurred before the pump change, but is a little more prominent now. I may need to replace the stock drains and do a durso. Will research into this as well.

Even with these two issues, I am pretty satisfied with how it all came out.

Here is a snap of the return Y before installing under the tank.
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This is the main return plumbing. Return to the tank has the most direct path for maximum flow. Immediately off camera right is the Y pictured above. Short, equal length flex hoses finish the connection to the tank.

The smaller 3/4" branch is for water changes and running accessories such as a GFO/Carbon unit etc. I can even have a drain open directly into the sump as seen here for feedings. Rather than actually shut off the pump, I will turn off the tank trunk and let the water divert for sump circulation. Still working on how to utilize this part of the setup. There are screw fittings after each valve, so changing usage should be very easy.
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Your noise Issue could be due to the different size pipe you have used, Or the combination of sizes versus one size. Not too many setups use 1 1/2 " pipe on their return line, Drain line yes but not on return line. The different sizes from one to another are IMO not helpful. Standard 1" return lines might be a better choice and reduce the noise.
 
The pumps output is 1 1/2. I'd think that is what I'd want to use right? At some point I need to reduce down for the hookup. I thought where I did the reduction makes the most sense. I have only two sizes. 1 1/2 for the main and then 3/4 once it splits. I went with 3/4 inch as that is what the hookup is to my overflow returns.

The noise is the same whether I just have the tank valve open or if I have all open which in theory would produce little back pressure.
 
I would reduce It right @ the pump to 1" and change your returns to 1" also, This gives you the same size all the way no restrictions. But that Is just what I would do, 1" spa Flex makes for a smooth pathway with only connections at two points. A control valve right off the pump would give you the ability to adjust the flow to a sweet spot that may eliminate the noise. Just my 2 cents TIFWIW.
 
I can hear them while in the room but they are not what I would call loud. I can not hear them in the viewing room at all. Given this, I think it is a simple and flexible solution when you have the luxury of a sump room.
 
you have ebon heaters? hanging on the sides?
i used stealth and have them on the bottom....hope they dont burn holes as you mentioned. I may try and find a cutting board to put them on.
 
All the Rubbermaid solutions I have seen have the heaters just hanging around... I'd like to do something fancier eventually, but for now, the seem to not cause any problems.
 
The humidity in my back room and downstairs is getting unbearable. Seems to hang just under 70% constantly. Good side is very little evaporation from the tank to replenish... bad side I can not even leave a hand towel to wipe my hands as it will never dry. Also, the concrete floor has a thin layer of condensation on it...not too safe.

I think it is off to Lowes this weekend to buy a dehumidifier. Will look into putting in an exhaust fan soon too.
 
I don't think you have any windows on that side of the basement, do ya?

Also, checkout Craigslist for dehumidifiers. I know Brian and Moriah scored one for a good price.

Brandon
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14972051#post14972051 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MVlk
The humidity in my back room and downstairs is getting unbearable. Seems to hang just under 70% constantly. Good side is very little evaporation from the tank to replenish... bad side I can not even leave a hand towel to wipe my hands as it will never dry. Also, the concrete floor has a thin layer of condensation on it...not too safe.

I think it is off to Lowes this weekend to buy a dehumidifier. Will look into putting in an exhaust fan soon too.

It is bad in my fishroom too. I bought the biggest dehumidifier that lowes had (use a 10% coupon). It helps alot.
 
Hard to tell with mine at the moment. I have had them off for a week+ while I did a Chemiclean treatment. Have not been able to fully turn it on the past few days because it bubbles over immediately even while the pipe is wide open. I have done a 30% water change since the last treatement which ended Wednesday.

Interestingly, the filter sock I have on right now is acting as a skimmer. Bubbles form in it and a head of foam pushes up, bringing some pretty decent gunk with it. Who knew I did not need to spend $300 on a skimmer. :)

When I have tried to fire the skimmer up, the one pump does not start on its own. I have to rotate the pump on the volute a little to kick it off. I have taken it apart several times to try to fix.

Once the over bubble issue is resolved I'll see where I am at. I do not think either of the pumps are starting in reverse. Is likely me just needing to get familiar with it. Before I started the treatment round, it was doing OK. Of, course maybe I just need to upgrade it to an Askoll... hmm how could I sell that to my wife. ;)

Thanks for thinking of my tank.
 
Just tell her they broke, And It will be cheaper to buy a new pump than to buy a whole new skimmer. HuH... But you could get some money back by selling the old ones for scrap!!! To Brandon. LOL
 
Sorry Brandon, I think it is premature to give up on them. I think it will settle in nicely. I think I need to start by getting the bubbles under control.

I am thinking of running some carbon on it for a while? Anybody have over bubbling issues like I am describing after running Chemiclean. Would carbon help? Anybody have a spare reactor I can borrow for a week till I can get one in from Bulk Reef Supply?
 
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