My Chaetodontoplus Conspicillatus and Holacanthus Clarionensis

I don't think a queen compares to a clarion or passer. But I think passer's are worse than clarions. Could just be that more people have kept passers for longer periods of time, but they are some of the more aggressive angels.
 
tcmfish said:
I would have left out the sixlines or mystery knowing you wanted rhomboids and lineatus, but hopefully your big tank will solve any issues. Or at least added the sixlines and mystery wrasses later. Good luck though, and those are some stellar angels!

What sheol was asking was are you worried about adding a typically aggressive Holacanthus with a more peaceful Chaetodontoplus, but I think you will be fine given the room they have and the fact that other people have done it in smaller quarters without issue.
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+1. I had a clarion and conspic in my 240, and all was well. Whether I own a very passive clarion, or otherwise, it wasnt an issue. In fact, the only species my clarion refuses to allow are regal angels. He has killed 1, and has shown that two others would not work. I socially acclimate all my fish in an acrylic container in the display (after QT), and when the regals were in there, The clarion didnt leave the side of it, flaringf and charging- for days.
 
jmaneyapanda said:
+1. I had a clarion and conspic in my 240, and all was well. Whether I own a very passive clarion, or otherwise, it wasnt an issue. In fact, the only species my clarion refuses to allow are regal angels. He has killed 1, and has shown that two others would not work. I socially acclimate all my fish in an acrylic container in the display (after QT), and when the regals were in there, The clarion didnt leave the side of it, flaringf and charging- for days.
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LOL. Awesome. I love all the aspects of reef keeping. Even being a dad and breaking up fights.
 
Here is what is coming in with the Gem Tang...Should be next week.

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jmaneyapanda said:
+1. I had a clarion and conspic in my 240, and all was well. Whether I own a very passive clarion, or otherwise, it wasnt an issue. In fact, the only species my clarion refuses to allow are regal angels. He has killed 1, and has shown that two others would not work. I socially acclimate all my fish in an acrylic container in the display (after QT), and when the regals were in there, The clarion didnt leave the side of it, flaringf and charging- for days.
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I do like the idea of an acrylic container and socializing the fish. I'm going to try that after the fish come from the 125QT.
 
I agree with Jeremy. Slowly bring your tank temp down to around 72F. All of your fish will fare better at that temp. At 77F-78F the longevity of the conspic, wrought, amd others will be cut short because of their metabolism running on over drive. T
 
jmaneyapanda said:
eggghhhhh. Get it down. Aim for 72 or down.

IMO, Social acclimitization is very important, so I dont add ANY fish without it now.
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You are 100% right. Going to slowly drop my temp to 71-72. Everything will be much happier and less food will be needed. I'm with ya as well on the socializing part too!!!

e55MD said:
I have a pair of wrought irons and a gem tang coming too. We have the same friends :)
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Don't ya love friends with connections!!!???

myerst2 said:
I agree with Jeremy. Slowly bring your tank temp down to around 72F. All of your fish will fare better at that temp. At 77F-78F the longevity of the conspic, wrought, amd others will be cut short because of their metabolism running on over drive. T
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Just had a long conversation with Chris about that. I'm taking it down slowly ;-)
 
I'm.. Speechless, almost. That is a beautiful butterfly, I fell in love with them the first pic I ever saw.

Matthew
So Clarions are actually WORSE than Queens?
Maybe it was the smaller tanks people tried the queens in years ago, but I remember them being pretty thuggish.
 
This is also coming to QT soon...Not my fish, but this is a Maze Angel Super Male that Chris got for someone. This is what I am striving to find...Amazing!!!

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I hate you! It's been years since I saw my last Conspic. We used to get them all them time, but our New Caledonia supplier shut down. I really hope the Clarion doesn't wreak havoc in your tank. I've seen hundreds of those guys come through and my experience has been that they are hardy and very aggressive. The only fish I've seen that is hardier and more aggressive is the Clipperton Angel!
 
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