My new 400 G tank
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keefsama2003
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how do the mated pair of naso's interact with the rest of the tank? are they more dominant in the tank or are they more neutral? i want a pair of naso's in my 300 so i was wondering about this.
Since I've had them now for about a week in a holding tank, I can only comment on what I have seen. Maybe MM can chime in since I got them from him.
All of the fish just cruise around the tank and don't really bother each other. I have noticed that the Male Naso seems to be the boss of the tank. The two Naso's do swim together at times staying close but a lot of the time they are apart. I'm not for sure how long all of the fish have been together but I know it's been more than a year.
The only new fish in the tank now is a Huma-Huma trigger that I was given to take care of. He was in the holding tank before I picked up the new fish and tank. I think he is the one who took a chunk out of the christmas wrasse. He definatly is not in charge of the tank as even the pink tale trigger took his sleeping spot.
I have since added in some LR to the tank and it seemed to comfort the fish and they settled down more. I'm sure they are ready to get back into their big 400 but I'm still trying to get the plumbing the way I want. Should have it done by this weekend if I can find a couple of bulkhead fittings.
All of the fish just cruise around the tank and don't really bother each other. I have noticed that the Male Naso seems to be the boss of the tank. The two Naso's do swim together at times staying close but a lot of the time they are apart. I'm not for sure how long all of the fish have been together but I know it's been more than a year.
The only new fish in the tank now is a Huma-Huma trigger that I was given to take care of. He was in the holding tank before I picked up the new fish and tank. I think he is the one who took a chunk out of the christmas wrasse. He definatly is not in charge of the tank as even the pink tale trigger took his sleeping spot.
I have since added in some LR to the tank and it seemed to comfort the fish and they settled down more. I'm sure they are ready to get back into their big 400 but I'm still trying to get the plumbing the way I want. Should have it done by this weekend if I can find a couple of bulkhead fittings.
zfunk007
Premium Member
Sounds great Blown Chevy. Can't wait to see this thing up and running!
Your gonna have the same ammount of light on yours that I've got on my 210. I have 3, 400 Watt Halides 14K. Along with 4 Actinic PC's. Your definetly gonna have to put the stonies up higher though. Thats a deep tank!
Your gonna have the same ammount of light on yours that I've got on my 210. I have 3, 400 Watt Halides 14K. Along with 4 Actinic PC's. Your definetly gonna have to put the stonies up higher though. Thats a deep tank!
Thanks. After looking at the tank top last night, I'm going to go with 4 X 400W's. There are 4 openings in the top so I figured I place one Mh at each. That way I don't have one directly over teh braceing. The tank already has 8 X 55W pc's and I'll change all of those out to atinic. Just wondering if I want to go with 10K or something a little higher like a 12K or 14K. I want to have a nice white blue that's bright so i'm satying away from the 20K's. Maybe I need the 10K's just to get to the bottom of the tank.
I started figuring out and doing some plumbing last night. Right now, the water goes thru the overflow and into a duroso pipe to a 2" drain line. that goes over to the 30G skimmer sump set on the right side of the tank. That will be enclosed when I do the final installation. From there it goes thru another 2" line to the 90 G sump under the tank.
From the 90 sump, it will go into two Iwaki pumps thru a 1" line and into two UV sterlizers. The out put of each sterilizer will feed it's own 1" spraybar set up on either end of the top of the tank. Each spraybar will have 4 rotating sprinkler heads attached to give a random flow thru the tank. Only about 1 1/2" inches of the sprinkler head will actually be in the water so you will not see much of them.
For a closed loop, there will be 2 X 1 1/2" drains in the bottom of the tank. They will T into each other and feed a pool pump that is hooked up to a hayward cartridge pool filter. The out put is a 1 1/2" line that will feed 4 output nozzles mounted in the angled sides of the overflow box. The closed loop wil be run on a timmer set to run only when the lights are on.
With this type of setup, it will eliminate the need for flapper valves in the return line and if there is a power outage, there is no worries about flooding.
I may have to increase the flow of the sump return pumps if the current ones are not big enough for the spraybar setup. If that's the case, then I will trade them out for some Iwakia 100's or something similar.
I started figuring out and doing some plumbing last night. Right now, the water goes thru the overflow and into a duroso pipe to a 2" drain line. that goes over to the 30G skimmer sump set on the right side of the tank. That will be enclosed when I do the final installation. From there it goes thru another 2" line to the 90 G sump under the tank.
From the 90 sump, it will go into two Iwaki pumps thru a 1" line and into two UV sterlizers. The out put of each sterilizer will feed it's own 1" spraybar set up on either end of the top of the tank. Each spraybar will have 4 rotating sprinkler heads attached to give a random flow thru the tank. Only about 1 1/2" inches of the sprinkler head will actually be in the water so you will not see much of them.
For a closed loop, there will be 2 X 1 1/2" drains in the bottom of the tank. They will T into each other and feed a pool pump that is hooked up to a hayward cartridge pool filter. The out put is a 1 1/2" line that will feed 4 output nozzles mounted in the angled sides of the overflow box. The closed loop wil be run on a timmer set to run only when the lights are on.
With this type of setup, it will eliminate the need for flapper valves in the return line and if there is a power outage, there is no worries about flooding.
I may have to increase the flow of the sump return pumps if the current ones are not big enough for the spraybar setup. If that's the case, then I will trade them out for some Iwakia 100's or something similar.
waynesworld
Premium Member
Well after some looking and having the 20ks and I think one 14k I am going to try the 10k because I will 4 vho itenics for the blue.
I am not happy with not having some stuff lower because of light not getting down the 30"
I am not happy with not having some stuff lower because of light not getting down the 30"
Some new pic's of the tank and the holding tank with teh fish.
Me cleaning the tank w/ a power washer. Works great.
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Skimmer 30 G sump.
6' tall skimmer w/ 3 sedra 9000 pumps.
Me cleaning the tank w/ a power washer. Works great.
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Skimmer 30 G sump.
6' tall skimmer w/ 3 sedra 9000 pumps.
The fish
The fish
Mated pair of NAso's
One eyed foxface.
Sailfin that got burnt years ago.
12" Vilgamanti (sp).
The fish
Mated pair of NAso's
One eyed foxface.
Sailfin that got burnt years ago.
12" Vilgamanti (sp).
MargaritaMan
Premium Member
OK. I officially miss those guys! Look like they're doing well. The top of that skimmer will twist of so you can clean the inside. Look at the notches BEFORE you remove it to find out which direction. I believe it will twist counter-clockwise to remove. Vlamingi 
Jeff
Jeff
Shawnts106
New member
What do you mean your sailfin got "burnt" is this a different word for Lateral-line and head Degeneration? Never heard it called this!
I have seen you on the Moorish Idol thread.. yeah your going to have to get rid of a few fishes... that or just set up another tank ..(what I would do!) lol!
good luck!
I have seen you on the Moorish Idol thread.. yeah your going to have to get rid of a few fishes... that or just set up another tank ..(what I would do!) lol!
good luck!
MargaritaMan
Premium Member
Shawn, This Sailfin was actually burnt by his own urine inside a shipping bag. This is caused by the shippers in the Philippines not placing enough water in the bag becuase less water means less cost. In fact when this fish arrived at the wholesalers it was the size of a silver dollar, blistered, and one step this side of death. Yes it is lateral line and head de-generation caused by the severe mutilation of the nerves and sensory receptors. It is scarred and will never heal.
It was a similar story for the one eyed Foxface.
Just call me a "bleeding heart!"
MM
It was a similar story for the one eyed Foxface.
Just call me a "bleeding heart!"
MM
Thanks MM for clariying that for me. All of the fish are doing great and Rudy now knows that I'm the one who feeds him and comes directly up t the glass when I stand next to the tank. I can even rub my hand along the tank and he will just sit there like he wants me to rub him. I have not seen the Vlamingi eat yet as he seems a bit shy but he's not loosing any weight so he's eating something.
Well It was a busy weekend, a long sand storm and some serious plumbing duties but the tank is now holding water and the plumbing is holding bar a few minor drips. I'll post pic's when I get the chance. I'm sure it's going to cycle some as the sand sat in a trashcan for a week and the rock was left dry. I made 2 trips up to UCSB on Friday night and collected about 600 G of NSW. Hopefully by weeks end, the fish will be back in their home with more room to swim.
Well It was a busy weekend, a long sand storm and some serious plumbing duties but the tank is now holding water and the plumbing is holding bar a few minor drips. I'll post pic's when I get the chance. I'm sure it's going to cycle some as the sand sat in a trashcan for a week and the rock was left dry. I made 2 trips up to UCSB on Friday night and collected about 600 G of NSW. Hopefully by weeks end, the fish will be back in their home with more room to swim.
MargaritaMan
Premium Member
Ya, that Vlamingi is the shy one of the bunch. Just find out where he sleeps and make sure there is some pellets in the vicinity and you'll be cool. Lookin' forward to the pics!
Jeff
Jeff
Hey Jeff,
While I got you here a quick ? for you. Is there a max flow rate for the UV steralizers? I was thinking of uping the return pumps to something like a pair of Iwakia 100's or something similar.
I've got the pool pump plumbed into the 4 jets in the overflow box and they work great. I plumbed the 2 return pumps into 2 spray bars w/ 4 3/4 openings and there is some but not a lot of flow out of them. I wanted to add in rotating sprinkler heads on them, but need more flow to run them. That's why the ? about increasing the flow to say around 1000 GPH per pump.
While I got you here a quick ? for you. Is there a max flow rate for the UV steralizers? I was thinking of uping the return pumps to something like a pair of Iwakia 100's or something similar.
I've got the pool pump plumbed into the 4 jets in the overflow box and they work great. I plumbed the 2 return pumps into 2 spray bars w/ 4 3/4 openings and there is some but not a lot of flow out of them. I wanted to add in rotating sprinkler heads on them, but need more flow to run them. That's why the ? about increasing the flow to say around 1000 GPH per pump.
HEY STRANGER, who let you in my thread? 
. Pic's of the mermaid will be posted later.
Where you been hiding? Hope everything is going OK. Any new items on the "Tank"?
. Pic's of the mermaid will be posted later. Where you been hiding? Hope everything is going OK. Any new items on the "Tank"?
