My Project ★ GENESIS ★ 110G (Miracle) SPS Dream Tank - (II) Build Thread

[Wally.B]

Freshwater dip is unbelievably stressful on the fish..
I don’t do it anymore but I used to.. so hard to tell what the fish can tolerate. I’ve seen tangs die after a few minutes but I had niger trigger go for over 15 minutes without much problem.. really varies. I’d suspect a copper band would not last long.

I understand, and TTM is better.
But if I am to do Fresh Water Dip, isn't it better to do while fish is Healthy and Strong.
JUST THINKING OUT LOUD.

I watched this Video Showing Fresh Water DIp process. Looks scary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po_dvEr5DL0

CLOCK is ticking. I need to make some decisions, in next two days.

I am leaning toward TTM and Poly Lab Medic Combined.

 

[Rakie]

Another good food to try is Mastik -- It's a powder which you turn into a paste, which is perfect for fish that pick at foods like shells and such, you can mix anything with it, a lil RODI water, and smear it on a clam shell. Fish that are extremely finicky eaters (like butterflys) typically pick at food in the wild. Some don't fully understand food in the water column, because it's not how they do it in the wild.

You gotta train him how to eat Wally

 

[JonezNReef]

I had a Ich outbreak once. I removed all fish and let the tank they were in sit fallow for 72 day and put all my fish through TTM. If you do the TTM correctly it is totally worth the effort because you won't have to worry about Ich anymore. But just make sure that any tank thats had infected fish sits fallow for atleast 72 days to make sure the parasites are all dead and there life cycle has completed without a host fish to continue the cycle. I now TTM all new arrivals and haven't seen Ich since.

 

[Wally.B]

WOW!!!!! (The Wall Color Matching Trim) LOOKS AMAZING!!!

Just taped up Painted Trim to have a peek. Such a transformation. I didn't expect this.

It's Exactly what I wanted. Looks Crisp, Clean and SLICK!! (With a Certain Touch of Invisible Seam)

Just like the original Design (4 Months ago), but a Tiny bit better.

About to assemble and glue on.....

PHOTO COMING SOON.

 

[Wally.B]

Another good food to try is Mastik -- It's a powder which you turn into a paste, which is perfect for fish that pick at foods like shells and such, you can mix anything with it, a lil RODI water, and smear it on a clam shell. Fish that are extremely finicky eaters (like butterflys) typically pick at food in the wild. Some don't fully understand food in the water column, because it's not how they do it in the wild.

You gotta train him how to eat Wally

Funny you should mention MASTIK.
Tunurepro got some and it just worked for him for a Finiky new fish.
I have a bit in freezer. He gave me a sample.

 

[Wally.B]

I had a Ich outbreak once. I removed all fish and let the tank they were in sit fallow for 72 day and put all my fish through TTM. If you do the TTM correctly it is totally worth the effort because you won't have to worry about Ich anymore. But just make sure that any tank thats had infected fish sits fallow for atleast 72 days to make sure the parasites are all dead and there life cycle has completed without a host fish to continue the cycle. I now TTM all new arrivals and haven't seen Ich since.

Yes, I actually did 72 Days of Fallow in my Kitchen tank years ago, after Velvet Wiped out every fish.

Can't do that again, since tank way to complex to rip apart to catch all fish.
Maybe I can try with a fish trap over a period of time.

 

[Wally.B]

CHIA-FIN (DIY Food Dispenser) Limited MASTIK Food

So I lost that ball of MATIK Food, and Tenurpro was nice enough to give me another.

Will order more if this works. For Copperband and Future Finky fish.

PICTURE Explains it all.

Got his idea from the Chia-Pet product, and how you smear pasted seeds on a porous figure.

I made the Acrylic Magnetic Plates for my DIY water Changer Level Sesnors (to adjust water change Levels).. Just a few holes needed....

The Copperband Butterfly is Hovering around it, but he is way to busy eating something else in this Mature Tank.

This may work for next TRANSFER QT Tank.

 

[Rakie]

Honestly, I'd put the Mastik on a shell. That's more their style

 

[Wally.B]

Honestly, I'd put the Mastik on a shell. That's more their style

I would have but till I order some (takes a week to arrive), I have one tiny Ball, so it need to not be wasted.
It floats away after a while stuck on.

 

[sensei]

Hi Sensei,

I know copperbands are tough, but I had one for 4 years. Same situation, I had Aptasia. He ate them, then learned to eat Frozen Brine Shrimp.
THIS ONE IS EATTING (stuff on rocks...Nothing floating)

I was thinking about you since you are my QT expert.

I know brining in rocks isn't ideal since they will get contaminated, but I am thinking of sacrificing a few SMALL JUICY rock full of Life, PODS, and Aptasia since THAT IS WHAT HE WAS EATING FROM in Kitchen Tank. I can kill a rock after each transfer.
BUT I am going to Local Grocery Store and Fish Section to get an OPEN CLAM.


I am treating only the Copperband since the fish in Kitchen Tank never get ICH. I will watch, but like last time with Powder Brown, I can't get fish out without tearing apart the tank.
But I will treat my Kitchen Tank with the Polyp Lab Medic since I already bought it.

Thanks for the 4 NOT 5 Transfers TIP. Less is better.

I will look into praziquantel for the 2nd transfer.
I need to make it to next transfer right now.

I have 3 TANKS to do this treatment.
-> The 65 Gal Tank he is in now
-> Two more EMPTY 10 Gallon Tanks.

I am only treating the NEW fish in Kitchen Tank.
The OTHER two new Fish (Wrasse, BlackCap) in Separate QT are doing fine and have never been in contact with anything else.

I am not sure if understand correctly:
you are treating all new fish or only the ones that show symptoms like the copper??

I ask because you can do several fish at same time in same tank with TTM , specially if they are small. You can also add "prime" or any other amonia detox product in the 2nd and 3rd day for peace of mind in case you feel the load is big for the TTTank.

I am sure you know this, but velvet could manifest at the 6 or 7th week after the new fish arrive because low copper concentration water where they are kept in LFS inhibits the disease for some time, so it is risky to introduce new fish even after you do TTM and prazi. Ideally you need to observe after TTM in a cycled hospital tank to be sure.

either you treat new arrivals for velvet also or you wait and observe after TTM.

best regards

 

[Rakie]

I would have but till I order some (takes a week to arrive), I have one tiny Ball, so it need to not be wasted.
It floats away after a while stuck on.

Ah I see!

 

[Wally.B]

I am not sure if understand correctly:
you are treating all new fish or only the ones that show symptoms like the copper??

I ask because you can do several fish at same time in same tank with TTM , specially if they are small. You can also add "prime" or any other amonia detox product in the 2nd and 3rd day for peace of mind in case you feel the load is big for the TTTank.

I am sure you know this, but velvet could manifest at the 6 or 7th week after the new fish arrive because low copper concentration water where they are kept in LFS inhibits the disease for some time, so it is risky to introduce new fish even after you do TTM and prazi. Ideally you need to observe after TTM in a cycled hospital tank to be sure.

either you treat new arrivals for velvet also or you wait and observe after TTM.

best regards

Sensei,

It's a bit confusing since I have two situations going on.

1) The New CopperBand with ICH (that was in Kitchen Tank)
2) The New Fish going into New tank (All is fine, just doing Proper QT)

I need Help with CopperBand since TTM time is coming up.

Here are my two DT/QT Situations:

I need advice on DT-B QT-B above.

 

[Wally.B]

Sensei,

Beside QT tanks for Tank Transfer.
Here are my tools/meds for Copperband Hospitals, and DT he came from.

-> Tank Transfer Tanks
-> I have Copper Treatment (Cupramine) and Copper Test kit to do properly
-> I have Poly Lab Medic

 

[Wally.B]

TANK TRIM (NEW LOOK) Wall Matched Trim

What do you think?

I'm not removing, since I want to move on. (Was tough to line up and do filler work)

I just patched with plaster (drying) so needs one more Coat of paint.

Easy to Switch Colors (I may try WHITE-WHITE) Some Day....

Good enough for now....Bye Bye OAK (1990) look.

Much more to do.

 

[reefmutt]

Nice.
Well, you’ve inspired me to paint the cabinetry around my tank the same color as my walls..
It’s a wood finish now..

 

[Rakie]

Looks great wally, much more slick. At least Reef Keeping magazine circa 2008.

Nice.
Well, you've inspired me to paint the cabinetry around my tank the same color as my walls..
It's a wood finish now..

 

[Wally.B]

Looks great wally, much more slick. At least Reef Keeping magazine circa 2008.

Nice.
Well, you’ve inspired me to paint the cabinetry around my tank the same color as my walls..
It’s a wood finish now..

So everyone agrees. Including my Family likes the Modern looks better.

If you want a Laugh about 1990's

Here is a video of my SCUBA DIVES from 1990 Cozumel Mexico.
Me in my BUSHY 1990 Hair. Moustache (Wearing Yellow Swim Trunks).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL5S8OZMZ4Q

We hired a Professsional Diver VideoPhotographer to join us on 4 Dives, and film.
Some interesting shots, that you may find Entertaining.
Morray Eel above Fed by our Dive Master (by mouth). Some other Surprises and a look at Mexico Island years ago.

Try not to Laugh too hard at me in 1990.

I only dug this ANCIENT VIDEO UP since TenurePro just got back from Cozumel and made a Amazing Video of his dives. He might post link here too.

 

[Wally.B]

Neptune Systems RMA (Replacement VDM Arrives) and some Goodies

Speaking of old STYLE.
My replacement VDM Module JUST Arrived from Neptune systems.

I got a BLACK METAL Original one instead of the new Grey/Purple Plastic (Really happy if it works, to match my OLD SCHOOL setup in Sump Room)

For the New Purchase (DOA) Headaches, they threw in the T-Shirt and a nice Towel with a retractable clip on.

Now I can finish the Full Sump Room Setup (Variable Speed on DC Pumps, and more).

 

[Wally.B]

Wooo hooo. (Copperband Eating Masstick Food from Feeder)

I just saw the Copper Band Butterfly Pecking at the Masstick Feeder.
It's now empty and polished off (Even deep within the holes).

I loaded it up again with some more and he is back.
I got it on video to prove it but you get the point.

Will be ordering some Easy Reefs Masstick Fish Food for up Coming QT.

 

[Rakie]

Good to hear! It's weird, my fish don't like Mastik.. but at the same time, when fish are new and not used to being fed they just seem to understand mastik on a clam shell is food, and they go for it.

It's really great for anything that picks bits of food in the wild (like a copperband).