If you know what you are talking about, you are not doing a good job of conveying it. -OR- Your not quite sure what you are talking about. In either case, you statements may give people the wrong idea.
Would you rather get shocked by 15 or 30 amp. Yes both CAN kill you if the juice runs through your heart, but I was not refering to a lethal condition. I would still rather get shocked on a 15 amp circuit than a 30 amp.
That is like asking would you rather get hit by a freight train or bus. Both will kill you just as dead, neither will break a sweat. You should not talk about branch circuit breakers in terms of personal protection from electrocution, as that is not what they offer. It does not matter how large the breaker is, the shock will be the same. I am not sure you understand that.
Not every 110 volt shock will kill you. I have been zapped enough times to prove that, and a 30 amp will hurt more than a 15 amp, assuming the shock condition is equal.
You HAVE NO IDEA what you are talking about. Thus proving my original point (AND PROVING THAT ADAMS COMMENTS WERE WAY OFF BASE). Also nobody ever said that ALL 110V shocks will kill you. Maybe lookup the words "electric shock" and "electrocution" for starters.
This was a side note in my statement. I am sorry I didn't write a 2 page report on it, but the statement is 100% valid.
No it is 100% wrong. The size of the breaker has nothing to do with the size of the shock you will get. Both a 15A and 30A breaker provide more than enough current to kill you, both without tripping. There is no difference between running a motor on a 20A breaker and running it on a 200A breaker. The current through the motor is exactly the same. Grabbing ahold of a 200A mains bus bar and sticking your finger in a 15A lighting socket will shock you exactly the same. The only difference is that at some point during your death by electrocution, the 15A breaker may POP, the 200A will not. Either way your dead.
The second one was about putting equipment not designed to be on a 30 amp circuit. Look at the manual of most sensitive electronics, it should state the max circuit size to put the equipment on. This protects the equipment and the user. Yes it is in a fault condition. I guess I should have added 2 more pages to my responce, but my comment is 100% valid.
Your using your flawed understanding of electricity to make these statements. You are wrong again. A 30A breaker will not hurt a piece of equipment that has a label that says "15A". If you were talking about FAULT conditions, then you would have and could have said so. Lets not play games here please... but lets read on.
Your suggsting that it is fine to put a device designed for a 15 amp service on a 30/60/100 amp circuit? You are WRONG!
Again, I don't think you understand what you are talking about. There is no way that putting a 6A load on a 15A breaker is going to hurt the load. The ideal way to size a breaker is to choose such a size that will only carry the desired load plus a slight amount of headroom. However isnstead of having 50 different breaker sizes in our panels, we use 15A, 20A, 30A, etc. We don't bother messing around with 1A 2A 3A 4A etc breakers... even though many branch circuits are only loaded to that ampacity.
I never suggested ignoring a label or doing anything against code I only suggested that you appeared not to grasp what you are saying... and I stand by that.
You could assume from your statement that installing a 100 amp circuit and running your tank off of it would be OK. Do I need to do a 4 page post on why that is a bad idea? Your advice is POOR, and I would expect better of you and you got called out on it.
No it would not be okay. It would not damage the equipment. However it would also not offer protection in the event that a piece of equipment failed. The circuit breakers protect that wire on the branch circuit and the internal wiring of the equipment conected to it. If the internal wiring of the equipment is smaller than #14 then it must also contain suitable overcurrent protection to protect it's own chasis wiring. OF COURSE a piece of equipment designed for a 15A circuit will not have wiring suitable to be protected by a 30A breaker.... BUT THAT IS NOT WHA YOU SAID. IF you INFERED IT, then you did a really poor job at best. In any case that is [inside equipment] where you will find you smaller fuses or resetable circuit breakers. The NEC goes as far as stating that they can not be user replaceable by higher rated devices.
I (and plenty of others here, including ADAM and other electricians) would be more than happy to help you learn and understand electricity and overcurrent protection. At this point you simply don't have a firm grasp of what you are talking about. I am being as polite as possible, but your most recent posts have afirmed my original statements and then some.
You might not agree with some of my comments in my post, because you didn't understand them, but my advise on what to do is SOLID and I stand by it 100%. I did not suggest anything that was dangerouse, while you did.
Ahh but that is the problem I do understand what you were trying to say and it is wrong. You keep saying you were not talking about CIRCUIT BREAKERS. Do you want me to go back and quote what you said? Honestly this is getting childish.
