Need everyones help please.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14789322#post14789322 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luther1200
Looking at those pics, that looks like a home made stand. That is most likely the problem.
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omg, why does everyone keep blaming the stand? The stand is not crooked, I checked several times with a 5 foot lvl. Its the tanks plastic bottom trim. The stand is home made. That is a picture of ONE tank. Please, look at the full tank shots/pictures more carefully and you'll see the rounded corners.
 
IMO you should take the advice of one of the original responders and fill the tank up with tap water outside for a few days and see what happens.
 
I really don't believe there is any way the trim is to blame here. If it was not installed properly that side would be low not high.

Either the tank is racked or the stand has issues. As for using foam, that's generally recommended for use on tanks without trim. $3.00 worth of wood shims between the tank & stand. Your problem would be fixed.

I know you want to hear that it's fine to just fill it as is but no one wants to see a seam let go 6 months down the road.

Good luck.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14789962#post14789962 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Western_reefer
omg, why does everyone keep blaming the stand?
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You have 2 corners of the tank that aren't touching the stand. One square and one round, I assume this means a front and a rear corner. From your pics it also appears that the gap between the tank and stand extends a considerable ways. This would suggest to me that the stand has a high spot in the center and the tank is resting on its bottom pane, not the trim. Does the tank 'rock' at all on the stand? Does the bottom pane make contact with the stand ? Can you turn the tank over and use the level {As a straight edge} on the tank trim?
The weight of the tank alone should of evened out any trim misalignment over time. Glass doesn't bow or flex, these are a few reasons why I/we would look to the stand as the cause.

A piece of string streached out and held taut makes an excelent straight edge and should show which is out of wack.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14792062#post14792062 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mouse
You have 2 corners of the tank that aren't touching the stand. One square and one round, I assume this means a front and a rear corner. From your pics it also appears that the gap between the tank and stand extends a considerable ways. This would suggest to me that the stand has a high spot in the center and the tank is resting on its bottom pane, not the trim. Does the tank 'rock' at all on the stand? Does the bottom pane make contact with the stand ? Can you turn the tank over and use the level {As a straight edge} on the tank trim?
The weight of the tank alone should of evened out any trim misalignment over time. Glass doesn't bow or flex, these are a few reasons why I/we would look to the stand as the cause.

A piece of string streached out and held taut makes an excelent straight edge and should show which is out of wack.
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The bottom panel of glass is not touching the stand whats so ever and is not rocking back and forth, you can hardly slide/move the tank.
 
I would flip the tank over and check the bottom panel of glass (not the trim but the glass itself) with a straight edge to make sure it's not twisted or bowed.

If it's OK you could float the tank by cutting a piece of dense foam the size of the entire bottom panel that would fit perfectly on the bottom inside the frame . It would have to be thick enough to allow the tank bottom glass panel to rest on the foam without the trim touching at any point and dense of enough to not compress when full of water and allow the tank to settle and rest on the trim.

You could also just remove the trim and treat it like a trim less tank with regards as to how it sits on the stand.

In each case the stand has to be made and supported with the above in mind.


Is the trim secure? If you grab on it when the tank is upside down does it feel like you can move it away from the tank?

While it may settle when you fill it up my concern would be is the tank twisting under the weight of the water ( which would be bad) or is the weight of the water causing the tank to settle securely and evenly into the trim that may have been poorly attached and shifted.

Another option is if the trim is secure and the tank is straight you could shim the gaps.

Glass will bend , bow, twist, and or flex ...........to a point.

I am assuming your stand is not the culprit as you've stated that it was OK.
 
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by looking at the pictures and reading what your saying about the bottom pane of glass not touching the stand then i would have to say your tank is floating in the air, there has to be sompart of it touching the stand, all 4 corner pics shoow as far as you can see the trim not touching the stand, so what is touching the stand
 
If the tank is not flush with the stand you are in a world of hurt. The constant strain on that end of the tank WILL cause a failure at some point. I would not use that tank.

That design is Asain in origin and is used by a sponsor here.
http://www.4fishtank.com/ov_pano_angle.htm

I have been to there warehouse here in Maspeth, NY and the tanks are pretty impressive, although I have never seen them with water/livestock in them. They all have a little bow to the front glass, so I am not sure if it distorts the view like a corner or bowfront does.
 
I recently had a similar looking situation with a new tank. In my case neither corner sat on the stand and you could slide several pieces of paper under most of the tank. It turned out that the glass tank was perfectly fine, but it wasn't sitting properly in the plastic casing when the silicone dried during manufacturing so in turn the casing didnt sit properly on the stand. I had to using a spackle knife to break the silicone bond with the glass along the outside of the tank. Doing this and then slowly filling with water let the tank sink down the casing and sit level on the stand. It took some time and I'm not recommending that you do it but it did work for me and my tank sits fine now.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14792333#post14792333 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by just dave

Is the trim secure? If you grab on it when the tank is upside down does it feel like you can move it away from the tank?

While it may settle when you fill it up my concern would be is the tank twisting under the weight of the water ( which would be bad) or is the weight of the water causing the tank to settle securely and evenly into the trim that may have been poorly attached and shifted.
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Not entirely. I slid the tank off the stand a bit and you can press the trim, the trim acts like a cushion or something. That's what I was thinking, maybe they just poorly attached the trim and the trim would just straiten out when I fill it with water and would be fine?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14793804#post14793804 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Anemonebuff
If the tank is not flush with the stand you are in a world of hurt. The constant strain on that end of the tank WILL cause a failure at some point. I would not use that tank.

That design is Asain in origin and is used by a sponsor here.
http://www.4fishtank.com/ov_pano_angle.htm

I have been to there warehouse here in Maspeth, NY and the tanks are pretty impressive, although I have never seen them with water/livestock in them. They all have a little bow to the front glass, so I am not sure if it distorts the view like a corner or bowfront does.
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Yup, that's it! That's the tank!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14794242#post14794242 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TheEdge
I recently had a similar looking situation with a new tank. In my case neither corner sat on the stand and you could slide several pieces of paper under most of the tank. It turned out that the glass tank was perfectly fine, but it wasn't sitting properly in the plastic casing when the silicone dried during manufacturing so in turn the casing didnt sit properly on the stand. I had to using a spackle knife to break the silicone bond with the glass along the outside of the tank. Doing this and then slowly filling with water let the tank sink down the casing and sit level on the stand. It took some time and I'm not recommending that you do it but it did work for me and my tank sits fine now.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing. Did you put any foam or anything under the tank?
 
I didnt put any foam or anything else underneath the tank. From what I could see the tank was manufactured with a very thin layer of foam 1/8 inch between the bottom glass of the tank and the plastic casing (which covered the entire bottom of the tank).
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14794342#post14794342 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TheEdge
I didnt put any foam or anything else underneath the tank. From what I could see the tank was manufactured with a very thin layer of foam 1/8 inch between the bottom glass of the tank and the plastic casing (which covered the entire bottom of the tank).
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Are you talking about my tank having 1/8 inch foam or your tank? What size was your tank?(gallons?)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14794324#post14794324 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by THE ROOK
Mustang - The bottom pane should never touch on tanks with base trim.
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i was just saying everything didnt make scense that he said the bottom pane didnt touch the stand and all the corners didnt touch either
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14794558#post14794558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mustang51js
i was just saying everything didnt make scense that he said the bottom pane didnt touch the stand and all the corners didnt touch either
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I never said all the corners. I said only 2 corners.
 
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