Need help for BEST setup for 72x24x24" (180G)!!!
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Drewcipher
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I am setting up a 72X30X24 and am to receive my H&S skimmer next week. 200 2 X 1260 bought from finsreef.com
Bono
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I just took down my 180 but here is what I had.
ASM G5 skimmer that worked fine but is cheaply made. I had a Euroreef a few years ago and the quality was much better.
A pair of 6100 Tunze Streams. These are awesome and not nearly as completed as a closed loop.
A PFO retro hood with 3x400w 10k's and 4x55w PC's. If I did it again I would go with the 250's, although these lights were awesome.
My sump was in my garage so I had a 110 gallon tub (like a rubbermaid) with a 1/2 hp Aqualogic chiller and a Sequence dart for return pump. I have used many return pumps and the sequence run great.
Like I said, I changed my 180 to FW but I'm starting to get the itch again.
Let me know if you need any help as I'm in Bradenton.
ASM G5 skimmer that worked fine but is cheaply made. I had a Euroreef a few years ago and the quality was much better.
A pair of 6100 Tunze Streams. These are awesome and not nearly as completed as a closed loop.
A PFO retro hood with 3x400w 10k's and 4x55w PC's. If I did it again I would go with the 250's, although these lights were awesome.
My sump was in my garage so I had a 110 gallon tub (like a rubbermaid) with a 1/2 hp Aqualogic chiller and a Sequence dart for return pump. I have used many return pumps and the sequence run great.
Like I said, I changed my 180 to FW but I'm starting to get the itch again.
Let me know if you need any help as I'm in Bradenton.
mcegelsk
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Thanks for the info guys. All this is great and I've been getting a lot of info down from the excellent recommendations from all of you! I'll be buying a house in about a month or two and look forward to the endless possibilities that await! So don't worry, this thread is far from dead!!!
portjeffski
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I just completed my 180 project and I am using a MRC2 skimmer that is working just fine.
I am also starting a 180g.... before even buying the tank though, I called Paul at Ocean Motions today....because I plan on using a 4way...my tank will be 50-70%SPS and rest clams, zoos, etc.
For a standard 180 (72x24x24), he recommended the following for flow:
1)2 3/4in returns coming from inside the overflow, up and over and pushing water straight down...
2)2 holes drilled in the back (1 on each side of the overflow) 1in size for closed loop...
3) Another 2 holes as follows:
- For a bare bottom tank, they can be 1inch at back of the tank like the 2 other closed loops, so youd have 2 holes on either side of the overflow.
- For a sand bottom, you'd put those two holes on the front bottom of the tank, and have them angled up (45deg) and towards top of the tank.
So the 2 return lines would be fed by a return pump (you are shooting here for a turnover of about 5times tank size, rest of the flow will come from closed loop) and pump water straight down the tank through rocks etc....
The closed loops would then push the water forward to front of the tank...and then water would either hit front glass and get shot up to top of tank (Bare bottom) or the 2 holes in front would go on and push water up the tank through corals and to overflow.
I will have a glass tank and dont want to drill the bottom, and I am still thinking about whether to go barebottom or not.
For heaters, I am planning on a couple of 250w ebo jagers.
My controller will be a Aquacontroller III.
I have a Korallin 3002 calcium reactor that will be controlled by the aquacontroller.
My closed loop pump will be a sequence reeflo dart.
I plan on my lighting to consist of 3 x 250HQI DE MH and then supplement that with some T5 HO, mostly for a dusk/dawn effect.
I have ordered the Reef Octopus 3000 skimmer and it will be inline, not in sump.
For sump, I am planning on a 100gal acrylic sump...not sure yet how water will flow through it...but part of it will be the refugium.
Last, I also plan on adding a frag tank to the system, so water from sump will get pushed up to a frag tank and then come back down to sump...the plumbing and filtration will be in my garage and pipiing will go through the wall to room where tank will be.
I bought 2 55gal containers to hold my RODI and saltwater... I plan on making water changes as automated as I can ...I currently spend around 2hrs to clean and do water changes for my tank, and I want this to be more like 10-15mins...I know many on here have done this.
I'll tag along for the info anyone else wants to give...and post some of my progress on here as well if you wish.
G
For a standard 180 (72x24x24), he recommended the following for flow:
1)2 3/4in returns coming from inside the overflow, up and over and pushing water straight down...
2)2 holes drilled in the back (1 on each side of the overflow) 1in size for closed loop...
3) Another 2 holes as follows:
- For a bare bottom tank, they can be 1inch at back of the tank like the 2 other closed loops, so youd have 2 holes on either side of the overflow.
- For a sand bottom, you'd put those two holes on the front bottom of the tank, and have them angled up (45deg) and towards top of the tank.
So the 2 return lines would be fed by a return pump (you are shooting here for a turnover of about 5times tank size, rest of the flow will come from closed loop) and pump water straight down the tank through rocks etc....
The closed loops would then push the water forward to front of the tank...and then water would either hit front glass and get shot up to top of tank (Bare bottom) or the 2 holes in front would go on and push water up the tank through corals and to overflow.
I will have a glass tank and dont want to drill the bottom, and I am still thinking about whether to go barebottom or not.
For heaters, I am planning on a couple of 250w ebo jagers.
My controller will be a Aquacontroller III.
I have a Korallin 3002 calcium reactor that will be controlled by the aquacontroller.
My closed loop pump will be a sequence reeflo dart.
I plan on my lighting to consist of 3 x 250HQI DE MH and then supplement that with some T5 HO, mostly for a dusk/dawn effect.
I have ordered the Reef Octopus 3000 skimmer and it will be inline, not in sump.
For sump, I am planning on a 100gal acrylic sump...not sure yet how water will flow through it...but part of it will be the refugium.
Last, I also plan on adding a frag tank to the system, so water from sump will get pushed up to a frag tank and then come back down to sump...the plumbing and filtration will be in my garage and pipiing will go through the wall to room where tank will be.
I bought 2 55gal containers to hold my RODI and saltwater... I plan on making water changes as automated as I can ...I currently spend around 2hrs to clean and do water changes for my tank, and I want this to be more like 10-15mins...I know many on here have done this.
I'll tag along for the info anyone else wants to give...and post some of my progress on here as well if you wish.
G
mcegelsk
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ghever- Sweet info thank you! I definitely like the ideas you have above. Right now I've been talking to my relator about houses and can't wait to get moved and really dive into this TANK!!! Keep them coming guys...I have a lot of info I need to post and I'll get to that this week. ~Matt
planning a 180 or 240, depending on what size i have in our new place
probably 72x24x24 glass
gen-x 55 return pump going to 2 sea swirls (already have)
2 vortech on opposite ends run on an RK2 (have a couple gen-x mak4 I could use on CL but really trying to avoid extra holes/plumbing as this will probably become an altum angel tank in 3 years)
DIY RC 20"x8" NW skimmer off gen-x 4100, gravity fed from main tank at 200 gph) + 1 euroreef 5-3...still thinking about ozone though probably not...
Actually trying one of the coralife ca reactors with a separate ph controller
2 400W 10K LAIIIs + 2 160 W VHO actinics
Stilling mulling over the sump...probably a small 20 gallon refugium overflowing into a 75 that i'll use three baffles in (return from tank, middle section for skimmers, return to tank)
topoff with a Litermeter
a 30 gallon tank will probably be plumbed into the main system on slightly different lighting regimen
probably 72x24x24 glass
gen-x 55 return pump going to 2 sea swirls (already have)
2 vortech on opposite ends run on an RK2 (have a couple gen-x mak4 I could use on CL but really trying to avoid extra holes/plumbing as this will probably become an altum angel tank in 3 years)
DIY RC 20"x8" NW skimmer off gen-x 4100, gravity fed from main tank at 200 gph) + 1 euroreef 5-3...still thinking about ozone though probably not...
Actually trying one of the coralife ca reactors with a separate ph controller
2 400W 10K LAIIIs + 2 160 W VHO actinics
Stilling mulling over the sump...probably a small 20 gallon refugium overflowing into a 75 that i'll use three baffles in (return from tank, middle section for skimmers, return to tank)
topoff with a Litermeter
a 30 gallon tank will probably be plumbed into the main system on slightly different lighting regimen
mcegelsk
New member
Well, I've finally decided and acquired my skimmer and calcium reactor. I picked up a Deltec AP702 and a PF600. I think these will suit my need for at least one upgrade to come!!! Critical upgrade planning sounds like it can save a lot of money in the long run!! Keep your recommendations coming! ~Matt
Natterjak
New member
Here's what I'm planning for my 180 (72x24x24 acrylic):
Mag 12 return
Sequence Dart and OM 4-way for closed loop
H&S 200x2-F2001 skimmer
K2R calcium reactor
60-70 gallon sump/fuge
Red Sea 100mg/h ozonizer w/Milwaukee ORP controller
Aquacontroller Jr.
3x250w HQI MH, ReefOptixIII pendants with SLS HQI ballasts, Phoenix 14k bulbs
Mag 12 return
Sequence Dart and OM 4-way for closed loop
H&S 200x2-F2001 skimmer
K2R calcium reactor
60-70 gallon sump/fuge
Red Sea 100mg/h ozonizer w/Milwaukee ORP controller
Aquacontroller Jr.
3x250w HQI MH, ReefOptixIII pendants with SLS HQI ballasts, Phoenix 14k bulbs
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