need help setting wavebox+multicontroleur+2xstream 6100

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kevin1234

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HI I need help setting the wavebox so that it makes a nice wave (my tank is 7 feet long)
also I would like if somebody tells me how do we put the controleur and the streams with the wavebox.

I have heard that it is best if the wavebox works in the day and in the night the streams work 6h each so that the current is circular in both ways
 
Hello kevin1234, I have a set-up almost exactly like yours, with a Wavebox + 2 x Stream 6000 connected to the Multicontroller. Firstly, I need to know the volume of your aquarium, as perhaps you'll need 2 Waveboxes to produce a satisfactory wave (Tunze say when it is over 1,700 litres (449 US gal). To connect the Wavebox to the Multicontroller, you need to open the Wavecontroller and put the jumper onto the pin marked 'Extern' (it has more detail about this in the Wavebox manual). the 'Master' cable must be connected to the Wavebox driver and the 'Slave' cable to one of the channels of the Multicontroller. Then, set the Multicontroller to 'Interval' with whatever interval time you want (they say 6 hours is best). If you want the Wavebox to turn off at night, connect the photo-electric cell. I hope this helps,

Paul
 
Well firstly, is the motor running properly? Secondly, make sure the water level doesn't rise over the Tunze logo at the top. If this is all fine, you must then simply start at the fastest possible frequency on the Wavecontroller and VERY gradually turn the 'Pulse' rotary knob until you get a satisfactory wave. It is a bit trial and error, you must just do it gradually and wait a bit after each turn to see if the wave is maintained. My own Wavebox doesn't actually make a big wave at the surface partly because my aquarium has a large volume for its length (250 Gal to 60") and also because I have a lot of other flow in the tank. However, it still makes a good 'wave' under the surface - and that's what counts for polyps!
 
I have 2 overflows in the corners of the tank will it still work with them???

also I can't seem to get it right I put the wavecontroller and the multicontroller to MAX but I dont see any wave in or out of the water???
did I mess up or something???
I see the wavebox pulsing water but it doesn't make any difference ???
 
My Wavebox is next to my one big corner overflow and it's fine. I have 2 Durso-style standpipes and sponge stuck around the inner edge to reduce splashing sounds. Firstly, did you turn the driver up to max? You need a small flathead screwdriver to turn the knob inside the hole on the side of the driver. Also, make sure there is nothing impeding the flow of the Wavebox - you must leave at least 24" of free space in front of the outlet. Other than that all I can think of now is that you haven't set it too the right frenquency, as I mentioned in the previous post. I would recommend reading through the manual and looking at www.tunze.com. It would of course help me if I could see a photo or two - or better, a video...
 
ok thanks , there is nothing in front of the wavebox, I read the manual but it isn't clear I connected the wavecontroller to the multicontroller the wavebox works but there almost no wave mouvement in the tank.
the wavebox makes the pulsing but there isn't any change in the water.
I will try to change the power from the driver but I dont have that kind of screwdriver ,I will buy one tomorrow.

But for now how did you set your streams with the multicontroller and with the wavecontroller???

I would like that my streams would do 6h each night and day(with the wavebox) but i do not know how to get the right setting...
please help me

could you show me a pic of our wavecontroller settings please
 
I imagine then that the problem you have is that the driver is not turned up to max. You need a really tiny screwdriver! Tell me how it is when you've done that tomorrow. Here is a pdf that I have prepared for you. It shows the settings I personally have, with the Wavebox running constantly (except at night) and the 2 Streams alternating at 6 hours each. Just to be sure of your expectations, remember that the Wavebox doesn't exactly make a tumbling wave like in the sea, but more of a surge. It should look as if the aquarium water is 'tipping' from one side to the other, alternately rising and falling about 1".
 

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Sorry, my arrow for 'Interval 2' is kind of pointing at 'Interval 1' by accident, but you can see what I mean I hope! May I ask, where are you from?
 
I would run the wavebox seperately from the other equipment, do not connect it to the multicontroller unless you want to run it off for periods of the day, in which case you have to use interval one.

To set up the wavebox make sure the driver is at full power, if you did not change it, it is at full power.

Slowly turn the knob on the controller and watch for the formation of a wave- this process can take hours and this is where you need to be patient. Turn the knob in hair width increments and wait a second or two and see if a wave forms, when you get in the general area a wave will begin to form, then you need to make fine adjustments to get the maximum height possible.

Once the wavebox is set up we can move on to the pumps but I would do that first. Do not have the wavebox controller connected to the multicontroller for this step, it just makes it more complicated and you have to be sure you changed the jumper in the controller to allow this connection before you do so.
 
Ah ah! Salut! Je pensais que vous étiez français! Je parle bien français si vous préféreriez communiquer en français.
 
on peut parler francais si vous voullez mais si on parle en anglais les autres comprendront et pourront mieux repondre.

en passant je pense que j'ai cassé mon wavecontroller ,les fils electriques qui sont a l'interieur se sont desoudés et plus rien ne marche est ce que si je les resoude ils marcheront a nouveau???

rvitko, tks for your help,I have a little question about the streams and the multicontroller.
my question is : if I put only the 2 streams with the controller on witch setting do I have to operate with???
And for the wavebox as you said I willnot connect it to the multiconttroller, that means it will only be connected to the wavecontroller and since it is only connected with it the slave cable is usless (right???) so now witch setting do I have to program so the wave gets bigger because I put the wavecontroller to max and ther is no change in the water mouvement ( is it normal???) only a little surge effect appears (in milimeters) what can I do to get it working???
please help.
 
Hi again kevin1234, you are right, we should speak in English so that others can understand! Just in case you want to say anything in French you can know that I understand. If your Wavecontroller is broken then that is the reason it doesn't work properly, particularly if it isn't properly connected inside. Yes, you could try resoldering the parts if you're brave (and able) enough, but be aware that this would almost definitely void your warranty. Therefore it might be better to just send it back.
 
Kevin, you need to be patient, the wavebox works on the principle of resonance, you are tuning in the frequency on the knob, each tank has it's own specific resonance and max or min has no bearing on this. You need to slowly turn the knob until you find the resonance frequency of your aquarium, this can take hours of tuning.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the unit, you just need to be more patient and take time to set it up. Do you live in France or prefer to get help in French language, I can have our agent in France contact you, he actually invented the wavebox so he may be more help.

I would use Interval 2 but I would first get the wavebox running properly and then work with the Streams, it is easier this way.
 
Hello rvitko, I should explain that kevin1234 says (in French) that he thinks that the Wavecontroller is broken, as apparently some of the connections inside the unit became unsoldered and nothing at all works anymore. He asks if it would work again if he resoldered the connections - I recommended against this.

I think it would be better if from now on I no longer intervene because I am no expert at all and may give bad advice!
 
ok I resoldered the connections and it works again and
now I got the waebox that is working just fine.
I have the surge effect perfectly working.
But just a little question for the streams the are running together with the wave controller how do I get them to run each 6h,both night and day???
I put them on interval 1 but I don't know what to do next with the pulse gauge.
And then I put them 0.2h to 12h in the middle of the gauge (6h right???).
but what do I do with the 2 power gauges on each sides of the controller???
 
Oh right well done! I'm glad to hear it's all fine now. Yes, I think that with what you've done you'll have a 6 hour interval like you want, the power gauges are what you'd expect - put them on max and the pumps run with maximum output. On interval, the pump that's 'on' runs with whatever output you set and the pump that's off runs at 30% output I believe... I just set all mine to max anyway! I hope this is clear enough, but like I say I'm no expert, I just know that my set-up works fine! Perhaps rvitko could give a better explanation.
 
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