Need Idaes to catch my shrimps fast

[DEXTER SOLIS]

hi folks,
Im trying to catch all my inverts (mostly cleaner shrimps) inorder for me to do a Hyposalinity treatment in my main display tank. Since I have converted my tank to go FOWLR, I can now focus on eliminating this parasite once & for all.

I need some proven idaes to catch my shrimps with the least amount of stress to the rest of my tank. thanks in advance.

dex

 

[Iammatt219]

try the inverted bottle top used for crabs as a shrimp trap

 

[DgenR8]

You do know that hyposalinity will kill not only ICH and cleaner shrimp, but pods, bacteria that makes your rock live, and anything else in your tank that doesn't have a spine, right?

 

[seldin]

FYI, another way to kill ich (not sure of other parasites), is to just raise the temperature in a tank above 82 degrees for 2-3 weeks. Can cure ich and you don't have to take any fish out. Has worked for me in past. So you might not have to take fish out, etc. Also, corals have no problems with this temperature.

So keep temperature at 83 - 84 degrees for this period of time.

PS. Some types of fish stress (for hippo tangs), etc., have the fish scratching on rocks but are not parasites. Just stress.

Make sure good water flow, because increased temperature decreases oxygen.

Hope this helps.

- LarryTAKEOUT@seldin.net

 

[greggnyce]

Get a sealable tupper ware either rectangular or cylindrical and cut a small hole in the top and sink it to the bottom with a silverside in it. The shrimp will go into it after the food and just pull the tupperware out when it crawls in the container.

 

[DEXTER SOLIS]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10868179#post10868179 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DgenR8
You do know that hyposalinity will kill not only ICH and cleaner shrimp, but pods, bacteria that makes your rock live, and anything else in your tank that doesn't have a spine, right?

I really did Hypo before, & my shrimps did survive. I just dont want to shock them any more.

I also read the "live rock" survives hypo, this was on Bills sticky post on treating ich with hypo.

 

[DgenR8]

Shrimp won't survive hypo done correctly. Live rock will come back, but again, hypo done correctly, as far as I know will kill your live rock. Maybe Bill will tell me something I don't know?
Larry, raising the temp won't kill ICH, unless you raise the temp enough to kill fish/corals too. The reason raising the temp seemed to help you was probably that you sped the life cycle of the bug, and you experienced a natural lull in the storm of cysts.

 

[seldin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10869723#post10869723 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DgenR8
Larry, raising the temp won't kill ICH, unless you raise the temp enough to kill fish/corals too. The reason raising the temp seemed to help you was probably that you sped the life cycle of the bug, and you experienced a natural lull in the storm of cysts.

DgenR8,

What I was told was that the higher temperature above 82 degrees does 2 things. It does speed up the life cycle and ich won't be able to breed. I was told this and did try it. It does work. The reason, is that after the speed up in life cycle, the breeding stops. Since there is no more breeding, the fish will not get new outbreaks.

It did work for me.

 

[Spracklcat]

I've caught some inverts by not feeding the tank for a day or two and thne burying a glass containter in the sand so only the opening is at the wand level, and then putting some stinly shrimp or other seafood in there. You'll also catch bristleworms that way

Hyposalinity will not kill your biofilter ("Live" part of your live rock). Those bacteria live in fresh water too.

 

[DEXTER SOLIS]

thanks so much for everyones help, I caught every single one of my shrimps, except for one, this would be a creuel way to go, but I also would like to see if it survives hypo. wish me luck everyone.

keeping my fingers crossed.

glad for the info Spracklcat, I can rest easier now.

 

[DgenR8]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10872194#post10872194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Spracklcat


Hyposalinity will not kill your biofilter ("Live" part of your live rock). Those bacteria live in fresh water too.

I always thought that there was freshwater bacteria, and saltwater bacteria, and each was exclusive. Much like fresh and saltwater ICH. I guess it was just an assumption, as I don't remember reading that anywhere. I can't remember where I picked up the fact that there are two versions of ICH (1 salt, 1 fresh), but I do believe that to be fact.


Larry,
I don't understand the connection between speeding up the lifecycle, and stopping the breeding. It's an interesting concept, but it just sounds like it's too easy to do, for it to work.

 

[Spracklcat]

Yes it is true that there are FW bacteria and SW bacteria, but there is a bit of overlap. To be honest, there is a bit of an upheaval now with regard to biological filters. In the past the paradigm was Nirosomonas/Nitrobacter doing the work, then Tim Hovanec's group determined that Nitrospira is important in converting ammonia...and now the latest work is saying that there is an entirely different group of organisms, mostly anaerobic, living in the rock which convert ammonia in an entirely new way.
so no one knows.

 

[seldin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10872325#post10872325 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DgenR8

I don't understand the connection between speeding up the lifecycle, and stopping the breeding. It's an interesting concept, but it just sounds like it's too easy to do, for it to work.

DgenR8,

I met a friend on-line who is "very knowledgeable". He has imparted many great tips. They have been proven true with use...

Here is some of his...


- Curing live rock. Live Rock should be cured for 6 weeks. When getting new rock, there may be parasites on the rock. If you cure the rock longer than 4 weeks, all parasites should die, because they need a fish for food. No fish, they die.

- In the ocean salt is high. Depending where it is around 1.025. So even if you have a FOWLR, it is better to keep tank at that salt level. Even skimmers should work better with higher salt. Even though some LFS keep salt at 1.014 to keep Ich low, as soon as the fish come into your tank, the parasites that are in the system or in the water, can "get your tank". So over the years, he learned that above 82 degrees and the ich parasites will die off. Not immediately, but in a few weeks time.

I can attest that I did this and it worked.

Again, I am only a beginner, but did take his advice.

Sorry for not deeper explanation. However, it has worked for me.