Need new bulbs phx 14k or????

GSMguy

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need bulbs my pheonix have worked well for me for almost 2 years but I am considering switching back to ushio 20k or????

What would you do?
 
I'm going to be in the same boat in a few months... Haven't really found anything better myself. Reeflux makes nice bulbs, but I have an M80 ballast. Not sure that they run best on an HQI M80 ballast.
 
sigh.... Who's got a better idea?

I hate you pheonix 14k, I think my corals looked better under the ushio but the ushio is only good for 7-8 months with good par...
 
Oh and no reeflux for me their par is suck and they color shift like crazy.

If I'm going to go low par 20k I might try the Helios my tank is shallow and all
 
Go aqualine AB 20k :) Pricey but the best bulb I have ever seen, and I own phoenix 14K as well :D IMO worth every single penny spent! Plenty o par as well, I have SPS at ALL levels in my tank, and I have amazing color and growth out of all of them. After running AB20K's, the phoenix make the tank look like diluted windex. The phoenix is a great bulb for the cash though.
 
I debated the AB 20k but the price is ridiculous. GSM you buy them and let me know how you like them :) Ha Ha....
 
aquacave has the AB 20k's for $120, I'm trying to justify it myself since I'm looking for new bulbs too. Just curious, do you have pics of the AB's garage1217?
 
You know thats funny,Im prob looking for the same thing(color wise) only I was also looking for the ballast combo to match.0 replys.Iwas thinking radium and gaalaxy ballast or lumatek,not to steal your thead but u may have ideas.

THNX
 
You can get the AB's for $99 every day from hello lights. Or snag them on a 10% off day for $89.99. While I have shopped at aqua cave myself and received fast shipping, they are usually overpriced compared to everyone else.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14616191#post14616191 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Estevon
You know thats funny,Im prob looking for the same thing(color wise) only I was also looking for the ballast combo to match.0 replys.Iwas thinking radium and gaalaxy ballast or lumatek,not to steal your thead but u may have ideas.

THNX

Radiums only come in sigle ended bulbs I need DE.

If you want SE radiums on an m-80 ballast like the SLS bluewave would be very nice.
 
I do respect your opinion,and that was what I needed to push me over the edge.Sorry I didnt know about the DE.

THNX
 
my camera does not even come close to showing what they look like in person no matter the setting. You would have to see someones tank in person. IMO the perfect bulb.
 
Thanks Garage1217. A few other people also recommended the AB bulbs. I just hope HelloLights has some on sale at MAX in three weeks. Personally I don't like the pheonix's washed out blue color.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14612365#post14612365 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by broke1
For cheap bulbs, the Phoenix are hard to beat.


Overall the Phoenix is a decent bulb.

Great PAR on HQI, good color, decent growth for anything that's not a 10K.

I run them on bluewave 7's and they lose their umph within a year. (It was that time just this week as a matter of a fact.)
I recently picked up a couple cheap DE enclosures that I'm going to to wire into my ARO's for frag tank and maybe under the electronic they will last longer. Doubt it, but we'll see. But for nonsupplimented they really can't be beat for the cost. $120 for 1 AB or 2 Phoenix? Plus for myself if I went to the ABs I'd be at $720 for bulbs. :eek:
 
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When I was searching for new bulbs I had a hard time deciding myself. I think you were on my thread GSM. I went with the Iwasaki 14k and at first really liked them but after a short time they just were to bright and they didnt make the corals look good at all. I went with Reeflux 20K's next and I dont care what they say its not a 20k bulb and I had trouble using them on a M80 ballast there made for electric only it seems.
So I though I would go with Ushio's and from pics I had seen they look the best but the PAR is horrible. Ive since settle on the Phoenix bulbs and on my HQI ballast find them quite nice. I also run two aquascience blue bulbs and I think it looks fantastic. I believe that those AB bulbs are the best though, I had a used one I ran over my sump and the color was great but the price is the problem. It really doesnt seem to get better than the Phoenix when you factor in cost. Nice color, high PAR, and good price seems like a good combo. GSM do a search for a thread about the ushio 14k vs ?? I think its hahnmeister who makes reference to the fact that AB bulbs are just rebranded bulbs made by someone else and that someone else has the same bulbs for much cheaper, kind of like Hit/blv and Ushio are.
 
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