Negative reactions to cipro?

bfliflet

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I want to preface this thread with my experience. I am not a gig expert but I have treated several gigs over the past few years successfully according the Cipro protocol from this forum. Only trouble I've had with gigs in the past was getting more than one in an aquarium for a prolonged period.:furious:

Has anyone seen any negative reactions by anemones to Cipro? I say this because I am on day two of treatment of a gig that I purchased a couple of days ago. I bought him straight out of the box from the wholesaler when it arrived at the LFS. I chose this route because the LFS anemones rarely look good in their tanks and they don't appear to treat medically if they become ill. They are aware of Cipro and the protocol posted here but have told me they've tried it but made their anemones look worse so they stopped.

It looked really good in the bag (mouth tight and closed, great body and folding, tentacles normal) but immediately showed signs of stress when I put him in quarantine tank -- mouth gaping, somewhat flat, 'teeth' showing. As soon as I added Cipro (250mg/10g), he immediately pancaked and the gaping got worse. Originally, I thought it was the anemone expelling bad stuff from shipment. The next day while the lights were on it got much better - sticky, reacting to light, touch, had body, mouth almost completely closed, etc. As soon as I added the next dose of Cipro prior to its dark period, it immediately pancaked again, mouth gaping much more than prior to treatment. I haven't experienced this in my prior treatments so I thought I'd ask the forum experts. It's currently in its 2nd lighted period.

Have you seen this type of (negative?) reaction before?
Should I continue treatment?

ps - If the consensus is to continue treatments, I'll document the reaction with photos. I would have some photos now but my confidence in Cipro was always strong. This is the first time I've correlated the LFS's reactions to Cipro.
 
We'll the proper way I always found in treating gigs and mags, requires the hobbyists to be truly invested in the the health and care process for new gigs/mags. these are the 2 hardest anemones in my opinion to acclimate to captive life. I've treated more than I can count of both species and found the greatest success with long term results is to put the anemone in a qt tank with a nice slow acclimation with perfect water quality and high par light it is set up as an already established tank to observe the anemone first. Providing perfect water quality and good light can do a lot more than hobbyist realize for infected gigs and mags. If the nem needs cipro I will then carefully remove the nem into a 10 gallon with water from that tank and then begin treatment. I have seen what you are saying when I throw the nems right into cipro without acclimating them to a good stable tank before hand.


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The original plan was not to use cipro unless needed. It was acclimated into a QT but appeared to go downhill quickly. A judgment call has to be made given how fast these can go down hill. Strangely, this was the first time I've ever seen what I perceived a negative reaction to Cipro, correlating the LFS's experience. Was curious if others had seen this and if I should continue the treatment despite the anemone's reaction.
 
Where are you getting the cipro? I have seen nems react poorly but pull through or go from bad to not getting better but this was only happening when I was buying fishflox on eBay now I get it from my pharmacist and I don't have that problem anymore


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Maybe the bacteria is more resistant to the cipro I have doubled the dose before on really bad nems and they can pull through


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The Cipro I have was from ebay. I have used these pills on previous anemones without issue. They are around 6months from expiration. I use one of those bullet blenders to rapidly dissolve the pills with QT water. Wonder if something's happening with pH or dissolved gases. Could let it sit for a bit before pouring back into QT. Just seems to react instantaneously to the dissolved Cipro -- unfortunately not a positive way.
 
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