New 150g build
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Jboone82590
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Damn man that's not good. It need to be as level as possible.
Going to need a bunch of shims.
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Going to need a bunch of shims.
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rlhanks
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Not to be a jerk but let me get some things strait here. This stand is for a 150 gallon reef tank? That thing is going to be easily over a half a ton in weight. Now looking at the construction used for the stand you are just butt jointing those 4x4's together with out any type of joinery like half lap or mortise and tenons? Did you use dowels, biscuits or even wood glue that we cannot see? Now the real strength is going to be from those lag bolts, because the 4x4's is strong enough to hold up the house, but any sway on that thing and its coming down like a house of cards or dominoes. Next is you're going to dump all kinds of money into the glass box and all the things that needs to go inside like livestock, the filtration, electronics, lights etc. and when it came to picking out the wood for the stand you used that beat up, knotty wood 4x4 most would use to frame a garden landscape in? This doesn't make sense. This isn't a 20 gallon tank crashing down on the floor this is going to be a ticking time bomb that someone could get seriously hurt, and more than likely it's not going to be the one who engineered it. Again, not to tell you what to do but you might want to step out side the box and rethink this thing.
After you added the 2 x 4s the stand should take the weight down to the floor which is what it should be. I am curious about the 4 x 4 as its color looks a bit greener than the dry 2 x 4s and as pointed in one of the posts above make sure it is not a treated wood..other than that you are good to go..here is a link of my basement sump 125G 72" long tank build with the stand and you can see how the stand was built..no centre beam at all as the weight is carried down by the front, back and side bracing..
http://www.gtaaquaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266370
http://www.gtaaquaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266370
Cammunoz
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New 150g build
Do you think using these would be a better option?
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Do you think using these would be a better option?
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Cammunoz
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Well i may have to rethink the 2x4s i tried to put my sump underneath and it was an inch short would the brackets be just as strong as the 2x4s
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rlhanks
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I would remove the top side 4x4's and replace them with two 2x4's stacked so they were the same as a 4x4. But the top 2x4 would span the entire top and the lower one would span the inside. This means you would have to notch the top 4x4's that span side to side. Second I would use yellow wood glue and screws to hold it till the glue dries. That is a half lap joint that has been proven for hundreds of years. Then you could remove all those interior 2x4's. Then I would roll that stand forward and put a board corner to opposite corner to add strength from racking.
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Cammunoz
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I would remove the top side 4x4's and replace them with two 2x4's stacked so they were the same as a 4x4. But the top 2x4 would span the entire top and the lower one would span the inside. This means you would have to notch the top 4x4's that span side to side. Second I would use yellow wood glue and screws to hold it till the glue dries. That is a half lap joint that has been proven for hundreds of years. Then you could remove all those interior 2x4's. Then I would roll that stand forward and put a board corner to opposite corner to add strength from racking.
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thanks alot for the help ill try but those screws are almost impossible to get out once in. This is what i was thinking but how would i support the middle brace in the the front install a bracket?
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the stand can be built in 100 different ways and be able to hild the tank. Its all up to you as to what your willing to look at under your tank. It will be difficult to change ince you fill the tank. If that stand is ok with you then i would just remove the 2x4s inside and the 4x4 in front middle and call it a day. as long as your going to put some sort of wood panels in the sides you have plenty of strength through the other 5 posts. Though if it were my stand, i would start over and look for some other designs online or in books. Also, the posts are definately heat treated for outside use. You can tell by the big letters HT on the boards. Im not sure if that means they will leach chemicals, but something to look in to.
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