Hmm ok, I will plumb for one in the basement in case I end up needing one. Thanks!
Darin
New 240 Build.. any and all help is appreciated!
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Hmm ok, I will plumb for one in the basement in case I end up needing one. Thanks!
Darin
Dustin1300
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Thanksdo you have a thread that I can follow also? I get all my info from other build threads
Darin
My build thread is in my sig. I'm still in early, early stages and hoping to just have my propagation system in place and running this month (140 Gallon propagation and 90 Gallon Sump). I'd guess that you won't need chiller if your keeping the sump/fuge in basement and using LEDs. If temp starts to climbs I would guess it could be solved easily with a fan blowing across the sump or fuge. (In my previous system I just had a fan on controller and whenever temp arose above a threshold it would kick on. I had 2 X 250 MHs and 2 X 54 Watt T5s on a 90 gallon with 20L sump. One of the benefits of having LEDs is ditching the chiller and that additional energy hog. I'm looking at experimenting with LEDs on my propagation system once I get it up and running...Really have my eyes on the EcoTech Radions headed our way!)
Well I will add the plumbing for a chiller just in case, easier to do it now while I am mapping out all the plumbing.. If I don't use it for a chiller, I am sure I can find a use for it later.. But I planned on having a fan over the sump for just such occasions anyway..
Looking at the Radions also, gonna be expensive for this tank, I am thinking I will need at least 6 modules to cover the entire tank, especially since the depth is 31"..
Darin
Not sure on the pump as of yet, have to figure out what the head pressure is going to be once I lay out the plumbing. Drop from tank to sump will be about 10-12 feet, and also about 25 feet or so horizontally. I have 2 1.5" drains, and 2 1" return lines.
Any advice on the pump would be appreciated. Will need some good flow rates as I am hoping to add SPS coral once the tank matures some..
Thanks!
Darin
Microsoft Visio, they have stencils for plumbing and valves, as well as the general shapes I used..
Dustin1300
Reefaholic
I think I'm going to steal your Vizio use in my thread for explaining my plumbing too. Every program has its limitation and google Sketchup does not work well for this...
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Let me know if you want the original visio file, I can pm it to you and you can modify it to your design..
Darin
Yeah, I couldn't put the sump directly under the tank area, hence the long return line..
Darin
Dustin1300
Reefaholic
Send me those my way as I have no reason to reinvent wheel. Visio is a great way to do this and not sure why I did not think that through
Some updates..
Some updates..
Made some progress over the weekend and the last couple of days...
- Filled tank with water and added 40 gallons of white vinegar for a 4:1 water vinegar ratio. Been sitting for 3 days now, almost all the "stuff" has dissolved. 6 people asked my wife what she was going to do with 30 bottles of White vinegar as she left BJ's LOL!
- Got nervous about weight of the tank full, so stopped in the middle, went to Lowes, and bought 3 floor jacks and installed them in the basement under the tank. That tank is not going anywhere now!
- Started sanding the stand so it can be refinished
- Cleaned out basement area where sump and other equipment will be going.
- 2-65 gallon water tanks delivered and brought down to basement
- Bought materials to put together stands for basement equipment
- Installed plywood on walls in basement and painted with water resistant white paint
Next couple of days will include constructing the stands, putting up the RO/DI unit, and finishing cleaning the tank and re-finishing the stand.
I put together the diagram below, more of a physical layout rather then the theoretical layout above. I have started putting in some of the plumbing sizes, as well as started inserting equipment names as I decide. Nothing is in stone, so please let me know what you think, and if you see anything I am doing really wrong.
I am probably going to run spa flex for the drains and returns from the bottom of the tank to the basement. One question I have is should I run this all the way to the sump, or should I stop somewhere in the basement and run rigid pvc the rest of the way? And the returns, same thing, should I run them all the way with flex pvc?
Here is the diagram, take a look and let me know what you think!
Thanks!
Darin
Some updates..
Made some progress over the weekend and the last couple of days...
- Filled tank with water and added 40 gallons of white vinegar for a 4:1 water vinegar ratio. Been sitting for 3 days now, almost all the "stuff" has dissolved. 6 people asked my wife what she was going to do with 30 bottles of White vinegar as she left BJ's LOL!
- Got nervous about weight of the tank full, so stopped in the middle, went to Lowes, and bought 3 floor jacks and installed them in the basement under the tank. That tank is not going anywhere now!
- Started sanding the stand so it can be refinished
- Cleaned out basement area where sump and other equipment will be going.
- 2-65 gallon water tanks delivered and brought down to basement
- Bought materials to put together stands for basement equipment
- Installed plywood on walls in basement and painted with water resistant white paint
Next couple of days will include constructing the stands, putting up the RO/DI unit, and finishing cleaning the tank and re-finishing the stand.
I put together the diagram below, more of a physical layout rather then the theoretical layout above. I have started putting in some of the plumbing sizes, as well as started inserting equipment names as I decide. Nothing is in stone, so please let me know what you think, and if you see anything I am doing really wrong.
I am probably going to run spa flex for the drains and returns from the bottom of the tank to the basement. One question I have is should I run this all the way to the sump, or should I stop somewhere in the basement and run rigid pvc the rest of the way? And the returns, same thing, should I run them all the way with flex pvc?
Here is the diagram, take a look and let me know what you think!
Thanks!
Darin
Yes I was going to put 3 filter socks in the chamber on the right, just for mechanical filtration and bubble reduction purposes.
As for the return line, it is 1.5" pvc to a 4 way split, one going to refugium, one going to manifold for filtration, and one for return line, which then splits to return to the tank using 1" flex pvc..
too complicated?
Darin
No, Not at all.. I was just thinking what pump you shoul d use for such aplication.
you only have one return line back to the tank.. if you look at Reefbum set up, he is using 2 pumps for similar set up, i am not sure if one pump can handle it to be honest and you have long way to deliver water to the tank. I know the key is to use one pump, but i will have similar set up soon and i thought of getting two pumps..
you only have one return line back to the tank.. if you look at Reefbum set up, he is using 2 pumps for similar set up, i am not sure if one pump can handle it to be honest and you have long way to deliver water to the tank. I know the key is to use one pump, but i will have similar set up soon and i thought of getting two pumps..
hmm so one pump for the returns, and one pump to drive everything else in the basement (refugium, frag tank, manifold, etc)? And then a third pump to drive a protein skimmer...
I could go with a Hammerhead for the returns, and maybe a dart for the basement equipment...
Darin
