NEW AGGRESSIVE TANK - Do these go together???

[chrisbenavides]

Lemonpeel massacred?

Lemonpeel massacred?

How much live rock does an aggressive tank (Dwarf Lionfish and Saddle Valentini Puffer) require in the tank?

You also mentioned that the Lemonpeel Angel can survive/co-exist in a tank with a Saddle Valentini Puffer and a Dwarf Lionfish, so long as their is enough live rock? Won't it get massacred? If so, is there another Dwarf Angel that won't?

THANKS!!!
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[marrone]

The amount of LR depends on what type of tank your planning and the amount and type of fish in it. If your using the LR as filteration, which would be a FOWLR tank, then you need to take into account the load in your tank. If your going to have a FO then you don't need any live rock or some some for decoration and hiding spaces. If you want to have open space in your tank then you probably don't want a lot of LR in the tank.

Any fish will surive in a tank with a Lion fish as long as it's large enough where the lion can't swallow it.

Most of the smaller Pygmy angels, Lemon Peel included, do better in tank that are either reef or have live rock. Some are hard to keep to began with and the live rock gives them a better chance of survial as they fell more comfortible in that surrounding as it's closer to their natural surrounding and they can feed off of the rock.

 

[zemuron114]

valentini puffers are notorious for nipping lions. I would X the puffer or lion. You could try it, but have a back up plan.
I wouldd o dwarf lion, pygmy angel, and a small eel.

what size tank is this anyway? i think i overlooked that part.. lol

 

[chrisbenavides]

its a 40 gallon tall....

whats a small eel???

 

[LisaD]

a dwarf moray would do ok in your tank, but are very pricey.

 

[chrisbenavides]

Well LisaD, after reading everything all over, yep, you have made more curious/interested in a Seahorse tank. So I will be checking around for some seahorses now (while my tank cycles)...Also, how much live rock for their tank?

If you know of any links that give great information on Seahorses and their requirements in the aquarium, please let me know.

 

[zemuron114]

a dwarf moray, zebra lion, and pygmy angel would be a very cool tank. I would consider seahorses. Sounds like a nice tank for them. Maybe throw in a sweet leaffish (they are good tankmates for seahorses).

 

[LisaD]

I have at least 1 lb/gallon live rock in all my tanks, including seahorse tanks...

 

[AngelReefer]

ya I would put at least 1 pound per gallon

 

[Triggerman1964]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6815715#post6815715 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marrone
If you plan on keeping the lion fish I would pass on the trigger fish. A snowflake eel would work but most eels don't usually work with lion fish.

?????? EEL/Lion tanks have been a staple in this hobby for many years and is one of the best pred tank combos.

 

[marrone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6913883#post6913883 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Triggerman1964
?????? EEL/Lion tanks have been a staple in this hobby for many years and is one of the best pred tank combos.

Yeah it's always great to see the eel chasing the lion fish during feeding times or anytimes you go near the tank as the eel thinks that it will be feeding time. Some of these eels get very large and lion fish make easy targets for them to attack and stress out and die. Not a good combination. As for it being a staple of the hobby as a pred tank tank, it's probably people keeping SF eel as most other eels are aggressive and will attack lion fish. Best comb? hardly.

 

[Triggerman1964]

I had a snowflake/lion combo for two years until the lion gulped air at the water line.The lion never overreacted to eel and the eel never grabbed the lion.My lfs has a tesslatta and a volitan in their main display tank.They have been together for 6 years.
Hate to disagree with ya.

 

[marrone]

Will I disagree with you, and as part of my post before I said that people have kept SF eel together with Lions, but even then SF eels can grow to a good size, and not the small ones that you see for sale in LFS, and can cause problems with Lions in a smaller tank.

As for Tessalata, they are one of the most aggressive eel that you can keep and get to about 6' or so. They activily hunt at night and will attack most fish in the tank to the point where it's hard to keep fish with them. So to put in a Lion fish, that doesn't swim around that much and usually hangs on the bottom of the tank, with an aggressive eel, specially a Tessalate, is pretty much making the Lion fish an easy target for an eel.

There are countless post and stories of people have eel chasing Lion fish to the point where the Lion fish has died or some times the eel has bite into the Lion fish where it has killed it or in some cases both have died.