New Conspic Angel
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Day 24
Hi... its been 3 weeks... and finally had a breakthru! Tried urchins, took a couple of bites and thats its not interested anymore... i figure i really needed to get some live food to trigger his feeding response... i could find any live brines shrimp here... at least not the adults ones. Plus hes stomach is getting alittle pinched... So i went to get some freshwater grass shrimps... he hunt it down and ate 4 straight in a row! Finally i get him to ate something substantial.
Ok now heres the dilemma... i know fw food is never good for saltwater species in a long run. So i needed to find a solution to this problem... i tried getting some live saltwater shrimps from a fishing bait shop, but they only have them in 5 or 6inch sizes... so i chopped a live one to bite size and threw them in... no luck. Not even interested...
Now im stuck with feeding 3 or 4 grass shrimps twice a day. He doesnt need them live, even recently deceased shrimp is good for him to eat. So now i tried soaking the live shrimps in vitamins, stuffing pallets into their carapace prior to feeding... hopefully he gets more out of the shrimps.
Any ideas what to do from now on?
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Hi... its been 3 weeks... and finally had a breakthru! Tried urchins, took a couple of bites and thats its not interested anymore... i figure i really needed to get some live food to trigger his feeding response... i could find any live brines shrimp here... at least not the adults ones. Plus hes stomach is getting alittle pinched... So i went to get some freshwater grass shrimps... he hunt it down and ate 4 straight in a row! Finally i get him to ate something substantial.
Ok now heres the dilemma... i know fw food is never good for saltwater species in a long run. So i needed to find a solution to this problem... i tried getting some live saltwater shrimps from a fishing bait shop, but they only have them in 5 or 6inch sizes... so i chopped a live one to bite size and threw them in... no luck. Not even interested...
Now im stuck with feeding 3 or 4 grass shrimps twice a day. He doesnt need them live, even recently deceased shrimp is good for him to eat. So now i tried soaking the live shrimps in vitamins, stuffing pallets into their carapace prior to feeding... hopefully he gets more out of the shrimps.
Any ideas what to do from now on?
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He doesnt take the frozens... just the live ghost shrimps... im just worried going on a diet of just shrimps without veggie at all will cos digestive problems for him... as of now, he still refuses to take any sorts of nori, i have tried red green brown purple seaweed fresh or dried and lettuce. On clip, tied to rocks, strips...
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Conspic Dreamer
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Was it housed with cleaner shrimp before you added the feeder shrimp?
humaguy
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try spir brine, they don't all eat nori and remain healthy, there is some vegetable protein in the shrimp (they eat it) , but I would try and wean off live.....
Yes, im gut loading the shrimps will algae pellets before feeding...
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That is where I would start.
I used to use the feeding stick method to train my lionfish once they started taking live shrimp, not sure if it would work on your angel.
Basically create a feeding stick using acrylic rod (3mm rod available at artfriend) and fishing line scotch taped to the end (about 5 to 10cm sticking out). Use the fishing line to pierce a live ghost shrimp and dangle it in front of the fish. The fish will soon learn to pull the shrimp off the stick and associate the stick with food. After awhile, replace live ghost shrimp with frozen ghost shrimp - I buy a bag of the live feeders, gut load them then drain the water and freeze. After the fish is used to frozen ghost shrimp, replace with pieces of fish or prawn meat. Sooner or later, the fish will take fish or prawn meat. Thereafter, it will eventually recognize you as a food source and one day will take pellets, especially if other fish in the tank eat pellets that you feed.
I usually stop at fish meat with my lions, but once even had success training a dwarf fuzzy to eat pellets using this method. Even lions that arrive in very poor condition and refuse to eat at the start have been trained using this method. The hardest part is getting them started eating the live shrimp in the first place, which you have already succeeded doing
Basically create a feeding stick using acrylic rod (3mm rod available at artfriend) and fishing line scotch taped to the end (about 5 to 10cm sticking out). Use the fishing line to pierce a live ghost shrimp and dangle it in front of the fish. The fish will soon learn to pull the shrimp off the stick and associate the stick with food. After awhile, replace live ghost shrimp with frozen ghost shrimp - I buy a bag of the live feeders, gut load them then drain the water and freeze. After the fish is used to frozen ghost shrimp, replace with pieces of fish or prawn meat. Sooner or later, the fish will take fish or prawn meat. Thereafter, it will eventually recognize you as a food source and one day will take pellets, especially if other fish in the tank eat pellets that you feed.
I usually stop at fish meat with my lions, but once even had success training a dwarf fuzzy to eat pellets using this method. Even lions that arrive in very poor condition and refuse to eat at the start have been trained using this method. The hardest part is getting them started eating the live shrimp in the first place, which you have already succeeded doing
Thanks for the advise! I have too, succeed in training lions with the same method as you, the thing is my fish will take a few bites before swallowing the shrimp whole... he will take dead ghost shrimp from my thongs... but once i switch to frozen ones with the same method he doesnt even take a single bite... duno whats up with him and frozens.... now im trying to gutload the shrimps and smearing mushup pallets paste all over it prior feeding. Sometimes it eats sometimes not... sometimes he will just grab the shrimp and thrash it around to remove the pallet paste... i guess i have to keep trying. Thank you all for the inputs!
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Day 30
Hi all, exactly one month. After days of stuff ghost shrimps pellets, finally he is feeding pellets alone off the thongs! Nows hes taking pallets all the time with thongs target feeding, provided my annoying pinkface doesnt snatch it off before him!
Takes a month to train this sort of a stubborn fish... guess i was lucky. Was told 8inch sized conspic might never take prepared food. Now i can sleep better at night... thank you guys for the valuable advices and help. You guys rock! Reef on!
Thank you!
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Hi all, exactly one month. After days of stuff ghost shrimps pellets, finally he is feeding pellets alone off the thongs! Nows hes taking pallets all the time with thongs target feeding, provided my annoying pinkface doesnt snatch it off before him!
Takes a month to train this sort of a stubborn fish... guess i was lucky. Was told 8inch sized conspic might never take prepared food. Now i can sleep better at night... thank you guys for the valuable advices and help. You guys rock! Reef on!
Thank you!
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