New trigger pics

In defense of T-T-Trigger, I have found from the many triggers I have kept that triggers don't just "snap". Snapping IME is a myth. I always see an increase of agression to become a physco killer. With this being said you can usually fix the problem before any major damage occurs.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13012735#post13012735 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FishyMel
In defense of T-T-Trigger, I have found from the many triggers I have kept that triggers don't just "snap". Snapping IME is a myth. I always see an increase of agression to become a physco killer. With this being said you can usually fix the problem before any major damage occurs.
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Well I'll keep that in mind, but its contrary to other personal accounts I've heard from people having Clown Triggers and Undulated Triggers snap on them as well as one I've personally seen with a Niger that took out 3 fish one day before it was discovered. Perhaps those people missed some telltale signs of aggression prior to it happening, but its tough to say.
 
I agree with fishymel. There are many factors to consider when cosidering the overall aggression of certain fish. How many times they are fed, amount of coral/live rock- hiding places, other tank mates, their sizes and their degree of aggression. In some 25 years in the saltwater hobby I have never had a fish just "snap." I 'm sure it does happen but feel it is more the exception and not the rule. In addition, while I am always in favor of big tanks, currently looking at a 680 gallon- 10 feet long- when I lived in Hawaii, and dove everyday, it amazed how most triggers I observed stayed in a relatively small area. Even the massive Titan I would visit everyday- probably 15-16 inches long and 8 inches wide, he was like a bowling ball with huge teeth- hung out in an area that was maybe 6x6x6- unless he was charging us! He/she was protecting a nest some of the time but I observed him/her almost everyday over a 2 year period. Those in this hobby need to read as much as possible and share info with others in the hobby, join a local club. Even after all of that, sadly sometimes, we learn by trial and error and realize that something we did or did not do led to the death of a beautiful animal.
 
I lived on Kauai, the western most island and the oldest of the Hawaiian islands, and he was on the western side of the island. For those of you who have been there he was located just off Poipu.
 
He said it in his op:

>>>but it will be easier to keep clean and have constant color


Also Triggers are known to dig up and blow into sand causing cloudy water, so some prefer a larger substrate with them, I suspect TT just wanted to do something different though.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13014311#post13014311 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by prime311
He said it in his op:

>>>but it will be easier to keep clean and have constant color


Also Triggers are known to dig up and blow into sand causing cloudy water, so some prefer a larger substrate with them, I suspect TT just wanted to do something different though.
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^ this ^ also, any beneficial microfauna would be eaten with this lineup of triggers. especially the undy's they really work over a sandbed.


as for people copying this, I seriously doubt it - its possible, but honestly most people wouldn't even want this.

stress is easy to see if familiar with behavior, coloration, feeding, activity level, etc...

also, those little baby undy's aren't capable of taking anybody out - except each other i suppose. But at this point they all have their individual territories and plenty of room to hide/escape.

jmo, ymmv


also, this hawk/titan combo i kept for over a year - then gave away (which i regret now!).


7462hawk_and_titan_flash.jpg
 
Nice pic danorth. I didn't know titans get so colorful as adults. The ones I have seen always looked kind of plain.

As for this fish combo these are all fish that can hold there own. If he had a fairy wrasse or a butterfly in there I would say that is ridiculous but none of these dudes would surrender without a fight.
 
Nice fish, triggers and tank two :thumbsup: :thumbsup: for you many think trigger are just killers put most of them just fight for the food. I never had any aggression with my clown trigger till food goes in the water . Even my dog will bite any dog if they try to get to his food :lol:
 
Nice Titan! I once had one for about 1 day in my FOWLR until it went nuts and started to attack all my fish in there; he almost killed a 10" Black Dog Face Puffer in there. I woke up next morning only to find the Titan bitting the crap out of the puffer in one corner even after the puffer had blown up to the size of a basketball.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13014311#post13014311 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by prime311
He said it in his op:

>>>but it will be easier to keep clean and have constant color


Also Triggers are known to dig up and blow into sand causing cloudy water, so some prefer a larger substrate with them, I suspect TT just wanted to do something different though.
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sorry I am guilty of not reading all the posts. Thanks, I wonder if you could keep other fish w/gravel instead of live sand.
 
Many fish are comfortable with crushed coral unless they spend a lot of time on the bottom... triggers, angels and puffers.

Sand is the way to go for sharks and rays.
 
Sorry...I meant to say that crushed coral is good for triggers, angels and puffers....

Sand is beneficial for sharks and rays as the smooth sand will not cut up their undersides.
 
Just an update.

week 1 - all undulateds had own caves

week 2 - largest of the undulateds claims over half the tank

week 3 - he claims the whole tank (from the smaller two undys, not the titan)


removed 2 of 3 undys and returned to lfs


but they were certainly fun to watch while it lasted! Anybody have anything else that they think I could try? Probably not, but if so let me know what you think.
 
So there were 3 undys in there? I bet my undy would stay up there with that titan......Check O street to see if they get any orange tail ones in. That dude was/is mean.....nip at the 8" clown trig mean.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13004288#post13004288 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by danorth
Great 5 star vid! The undy with the yellow/green tail vs. the total orange tail is most apparent with the reluctance to be out in the open. There really is a big difference. The orange tail kind like the one you used to have is much more out in the open it seems. Would you agree? I haven't had an indo undy really swim at the top of the tank, and I've had a few from small to near 8".

The titan is fantastic. Can't wait to see the growth....if they do grow! Maybe the ones in the ocean are born at 18"!
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I've got a solid orange tail undy that I was told came from Palau. Very active and always out, but in a tank by herself. I'll try to get some pics of her next time I'm home. My undy would not cower either, lol.

T-T-T that trigger is bad. The tank looks sweet as well. Keep it up man.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13099650#post13099650 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Grouperhead
I've got a solid orange tail undy that I was told came from Palau. Very active and always out, but in a tank by herself. I'll try to get some pics of her next time I'm home. My undy would not cower either, lol.

T-T-T that trigger is bad. The tank looks sweet as well. Keep it up man.
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thx, grouper head! long time no see on the forums, glad you are still keeping with the hobby.




Also, for sake of anyone wanting to try this fish - I rearranged the rock and added an 8" Argus grouper - the next day I had to remove an 8" Argus grouper!!.! Titan was having none of it, wasnt even a 'maybe' - just straight up domination from the start.

so it looks like this is it unless maybe doing a solo tank for trig (mostly cause there are other fish I want to try)
 
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