new water change theory

my tank is now fully established and thriving xenia are multiplying to nusance stage fragspawn is poping out 3 new nubs fish are ok a few casulties but nothing extreme. I have not officially changed my water since Feb of 2005. Before any one flys off a handle let me finish. I have been doing 1 gal water changes by turning my ETSS skimmer up and letting much wet foam be my 1 gal water change. combined with a 24 hr photo period on my refug. my Nitrates are zero and nitrites are zero. My only worry is eventhough I get the worst 1 gallon of grey brown water out do you think concentrated water changes are enough water volume or is volume rather than toxins really even in question, because the life in my tank is thriving.
 
Warnock,

Great minds think alike <grin> - I wrote about that technique for a book I have coming out this month. One problem is how to control a skimmer that is running at high production (see below).
I feel that most people run their skimmers too dry anyway. You can pull a lot more POC by running them very wet, however, I didn't take it as far as using the wet skimmate as the ONLY water change for the tank. How often do you run the skimmer like that?
My only concern is that I often hear people say, "I haven't done a water change in X amount of time" - only to hear later that things went south a few months later. I once had a women tell me that I was full of cr*p for telling people that they needed to do a 25% water change every two weeks on their feshwater tanks - she hadn't done one in three years and her fish were fine. Of course, the new fish that I sold her that day died because they couldn't adapt to her tank's 5.5 pH<grin>.
I bet that unless you have some really delicate corals, or unless it is really crowded, a 90 gallon reef can go as long as your's without many water changes at all.


Jay Hemdal


From "Advanced marine Aquarium Techniques":

Foam fractionator control ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“
In the past, aquarists would tend to run their foam fractionators / protein skimmers very dry. The foam produced would stick to the effluent cup almost like cotton candy. In some cases, the skimming action would virtually cease unless there was a large influx of organics into the system. As people eventually determined that running these units "wet" rather than "dry" insured that proper skimming was taking place, as well as helping to remove particulate organic carbon (POC) a side effect began to appear - skimmers overflowing their collection tanks. Depending on the aquarium's set up, a skimmer that ran too wet might flood the floor outside the aquarium, or drain the sump causing the life support system to stop working. There seems to be some correlation between skimmer output and barometric pressure. Many aquarists have discovered that their skimmers will overflow during or just following the passing of a major storm. Combine barometric variability with all the other factors that influence skimmer production such as pump speed, nutrient loading and presence of oils in the water and it is no wonder that running skimmers at maximum capacity frequently causes overflows. Since these overflows cannot be avoided, how can their effect be mitigated? Many aquarists simply design their skimmer collection vessels so that if fills up, the excess liquid returns to the aquarium's sump. While this contains any water loss, it does return skimmate to the system, negating the benefit gained during a certain period. A better solution is to install a float switch inside the skimmer collection container. If the level of skimmate threatens to rise and overflow the container, the switch will automatically turn off the pump driving the skimmer, stopping the device for a time, but at least not returning skimmate to the system.
 
My last reef tank i never did water changes as well. I had a Seabay skimmer rated for a 150 tank on my 55 reef with 20gal sump. Initially I got it because I was fed up with green hair algae. Before this my polyps and shrooms went nuts mutiplying like crazy. Once the skimmer had ran for 3 months or so the algae disappeared extremely rapidly all of a sudden which was great, I could see my rock again. But the side effect was my polyps and mushrooms quit growing. I had overskimmed all of the nutrients out of the water. never had to do a water change though heheh. I think on my next tank, which hopefully I will start in a month or so, I will run the skimmer on a daytime timer. During the day so I wont have to listen to it at night heheh. Maybe this will encourage more softy growth.
 
I replenish with re salinated and trace element replenished tap that is stirred by maxi j. 200 for about three days. So I know my element levels are pretty good based on invert growth and stability.
 
i do two water changes a year and i have never lost a think and all readings are 0.00. I dose cal and other things but thats it
 
I add 10 gallons to my system and do a few chores around the house and then draw of 10 gallons.
I like to skimmer water change idea too and may try it.
 
doesn't the skimmer take water only and leave behind the salt?
New water added would be top off isn't it?
 
with the ammount of volume taken out as I have uped the out put to about five gallons in a water change I am not too worried about metal build up. also during my weekly skimmate dump the dump water is the same blueish color of my replenished water so I am pretty certian it is taking out elements, the metals may stay behind but with enough water volume flowing through the skimmer to the dump bucket by sheer statistics metals should be being carried away.
 
I believe the water in the dump bucket is salt because its not evaporated and it tastes salty I have not tested the salinity in the dump bucket but tounge test says there's salt.
 
Keep us posted. I would definitely monitor that salinity though because you will probably need to add some salt to your top-off water using your method as I understand it.
 
Another method is to do waterchange by acclimating your new livestock heh. Or waterchange by fragging corals and using tank water in the bag.

Seriously, any way that replaces water works. That's what a waterchange is.... It's the amount to change and frequency that everybody has an opinion about. All I can say is whatever works is fine.
 
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