New wavemaker- awesome!!!
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golf nut
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The standard motor is 115v 60hz, works as it should in this country, ie US and Canada, The Aussies want 220v as do Singapore and Sweeden, The simplest way is to go with a motor readily available to the country of choice and make adapter plates , this way product will ship with less weight , less complication for customs documents with no electrical code issues either, this should all be cleared up soon.
Paul
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henkelsfamily
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If I were you I would use a pressure rated pump. JMO
seeker
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I'm running my 8 way with a sequence cimarron. All outputs are 1" with 3/4" outlets. I'm running 2 outputs at a time and I'm very happy with the water movement. I'm not sure I would go with a pressure rated pump.
The plan looks good.. are you planning on running any of the revolutions?
Seeker
The plan looks good.. are you planning on running any of the revolutions?
Seeker
Hi everyone, I've have my four way up and running. This thing is awesome, It actually looks like waves in the ocean the way it make everything sway back and forth. I have 2, 1" 1/2 lines coming in from the bottom of the tank. I have them pointing in the front corners of the glass. Then I have 2 more 1" 1/2 lines coming over the back of the tank. I have them in the back corners of the tank, there pointing at the opposite end of the tank. I have a amp master 3000 running the four way. Might have to throttle it back a bit. The only thing I've noticed is the motor on the four way get pretty hot. Also Paul was really great to deal with.
Thanks for the great sevice, Kyle
Thanks for the great sevice, Kyle
Mickey
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Re: My 280 plumbing prop..
Re: My 280 plumbing prop..
Looks very similar to what I was working on for my new 200 gallon. I'd be interested in how you find the flow with this set up. When are you installing it? I am debating adding additional outputs too to be sure the flow is gentle enough.
Mickey
Re: My 280 plumbing prop..
jlehigh said:Great job on the thread guys.
Let me know what you think of this plan. It would be driven by an ampmaster 3000 adding additional outputs to avoid blowing the fish against the glass like a bug to a windshield
Looks very similar to what I was working on for my new 200 gallon. I'd be interested in how you find the flow with this set up. When are you installing it? I am debating adding additional outputs too to be sure the flow is gentle enough.
Mickey
henkelsfamily: More juice huh? I thougt the 3000 would be almost too much flow for the coral tissues..
seeker: Thanks; the 4 outputs on top will have revolutions on them.
kyleka: Sound like a cool set-up! Is your 4-way running two outputs at a time? This would be a good indicator for my plumbing... It makes sense to me to add outputs versus throttling back the punp. I figure each 1" would recieve at least 500gph (probably more) though I haven't confirmed with any head loss calcs ect ..
MickeyDee: It will probably be about 2 weeks before the plumbing is done. The device itself will be mounted pretty close to where it is shown in the picture. Along the back a few inches out from the tank for the 1.5" inlet.
seeker: Thanks; the 4 outputs on top will have revolutions on them.
kyleka: Sound like a cool set-up! Is your 4-way running two outputs at a time? This would be a good indicator for my plumbing... It makes sense to me to add outputs versus throttling back the punp. I figure each 1" would recieve at least 500gph (probably more) though I haven't confirmed with any head loss calcs ect ..
MickeyDee: It will probably be about 2 weeks before the plumbing is done. The device itself will be mounted pretty close to where it is shown in the picture. Along the back a few inches out from the tank for the 1.5" inlet.
jlehigh - I have a ampmaster 3K on a closed loop on my 72G with 6 outlets - basically one in each corner opposing to the opposite corner, then two along the back to kick up detritus - it's strong, but I wouldn't worry about any "bugs on a windsheild" 
- It also states on dolphin's site "Amp Masters Can flow through 1" pipe without cavatation and can be valved back to desired flow without harm to the pump."
RC's head-loss calculator put's my set-up at about 2400gph from the closed loop
- It also states on dolphin's site "Amp Masters Can flow through 1" pipe without cavatation and can be valved back to desired flow without harm to the pump." RC's head-loss calculator put's my set-up at about 2400gph from the closed loop
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MadTownMax said:...and can be valved back to desired flow without harm to the pump." so If they're not pressure-rated, someone should let dolphin know
It's not a question of wether or not the pump can survive operating under back-pressure without damage... "pressure rated" means the pump/motor is designed to push water against back-pressure, without losing as much velocity. Something to do w/ the type/speed/power of motor they use, and impeller construction (more fins on the impeller, I think?). The Ampmaster line can't pump 20 feet vertically, or it will shut down (17.5, actually). Yet under 0 head pressure, it cranks out an amazing 3000 GPH. A "Pressure rated" Iwaki100 by comparison, only is capable of moving 2/3rds that volume at 0 head (2000 gph), yet can shoot a stream of water over 36 feet in the air... That's what they mean by "pressure rated" when referring to pumps in the aquarium trade. Wether it can operate in an environment containing backpressure, is irrelevant, it's still not a pressure rated pump. The slope of the curve of that pump against head pressure, will be a very different shape, than that of a pressure rated pump. I would make sure that RC's calculator is setup for that kind of pump (and the forumla has the proper slope programmed into it), and not a pressure rated slope.
Quite honestly, any quality pump, should be able to operate with a certain degree of backpressure. The fact that Dolphin is confidently stating it won't harm their pump, means they're sure they've built a quality product (and from what I've heard from other user's, they have).
For closed loops and situations with minimal back-pressure, non-pressure rated pumps are usually a better option - they use less energy, and typically produce more flow (and are cheaper, too!). However you'd never get an Ampmaster to pump a return upstairs to the first floor, if you sumps were in the basement. For that type of task (or pushing water through a Venturi/Beckett injector in a skimmer, or chiller, or other filtration device), you're far better off using a pressure rated pump.
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Oh, sorry. I recind my statement. I think I'm going back to keeping freshwater after that lecture.
Mexican Hermit
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How do little giants work? Do they work for salt tanks? Or do you all recommend something else?
Lunchbucket
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from what i heard LG's are ok but for a little more i would go w/ the blueline (championlighting.com) or the panworld (premiumaquatics.com)....they are the SAME pump. Panworld is a blueline and blueline is a panworld. blueline is the lable that champion uses...and they actually have the panworld lable on them
they are supposed to be BETTER than the iwalki's and quieter. LG's aren't as good as these i guess
i have my blueline/panworld pump but am just waiting to move into the new apt to set up the tank
Lunchbucket
they are supposed to be BETTER than the iwalki's and quieter. LG's aren't as good as these i guess
i have my blueline/panworld pump but am just waiting to move into the new apt to set up the tank
Lunchbucket
MiddletonMark
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mikefish put it well. LG's are cheap, fairly dependable pumps. Not silent, but the lower # ones IME have been quite good.
Few externals are silent ... and until I set up an in-wall huge tank - I'm holding off on buying a pump that will last me a decade. LG's have done quite nicely for the meantime for me. Yep, there are better pumps ... and quieter. But for cost and generally `not a total POS' ... I like them.
Few externals are silent ... and until I set up an in-wall huge tank - I'm holding off on buying a pump that will last me a decade. LG's have done quite nicely for the meantime for me. Yep, there are better pumps ... and quieter. But for cost and generally `not a total POS' ... I like them.
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