Newbies, please understand this one thing...

Sk8r

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Yes, upfront, you'll hear the occasional person saying "I have no qt tank, I don't quarantine, etc."

This is NOT something to skip...especially if this is your first tank. Why? Several really big reasons. Stay with me and read this. Please. I HATE having to tell somebody to break down his tank.

1. You're going to have ups and downs in your water quality. This is going to stress the daylights out of your fish during your first few months. [Another reason not to get your most delicate yet.] This will go on until you learn certain things and possibly until you get certain equipment like an autotopoff, your own ro/di filter, refractometer etc. You can shorten this curve, but there will be a day you forget to turn the autotopoff back on after a water change.

2. Your fish have just been through a very stressful experience, and they've been exposed to things along the way, due to capture, shipping, lack of food, etc, and there may be one little spot of a parasite that's been shipped with them. You can't see it. But they'll multiply insanely fast. They're less sensitive to bad water than your fish are. Two or three invisible animacules will come in, head for your sand and rock and start multiplying. This is why you don't put even your FIRST fish into a tank without quarantining first: you're not only protecting your fish, you're protecting your TANK.

3. Some fish, like tangs, like angels, live high up the reef and haven't much natural defense against sand-and-rock dwelling parasites like ich. Some, like mandarins, bottom-fishes, do. The ones that don't have defenses will get it first and worst, and you won't necessarily see it: it goes for the gills and invisibly chokes these fish to death before you know what's happening.

You are incorrect to think it's cruel to put your pretty new fish into a completely bare glass box in dim light for several weeks of quarantine. You want it to be in the nice world you've made for it. Wrong. No. Think of it as a period to rest up at the Hilton. Your quarantine period allows the fish to be in a dim place, untroubled from others defending territory, it'll have no competition for food, which it will have in good amount, with a daily-cleaned particulate filter to be sure there's no problem, it'll have an elbow of PVC pipe to hide in or near (it's not picky) and it will have daily tested good water, daily tested salinity, a cover to prevent it jumping out due to being startled, and if it should turn up flaring its gills, scratching on the pipe, or covered in spots or having a fin erosion issue, your daily close observation will nip that condition in the bud---you simply assess what ails it, do the appropriate treatment (you can't do it in your tank, because it would kill off the bacteria that handle waste and kill your live rock and live sand)---and CURE the fish of what would have handily killed it and every other fish you own.

So bite the bullet. A simple qt rig is DEFINITELY the way for a newbie to go. And people who are old in this hobby, who don't make nearly so many beginner mistakes, still believe that a qt rig is the way to go. When your investment is bigger and bigger, you'll still be using that rig, because you've been on RC long enough to read all the tragic posts by those who didn't set up a qt.
 
I have only been at this for a few month and i have be quarantining my fish, but i don't use and kind of meds unless i see an issue. I heard some people use some sort of meds no matter what when they quarantine the new fish. any thoughts on that?
 
I've been a reefer for five years, I agree it's good to quarantine, but when your only going to add 5 or so fish I don't see the point of keeping a long term quarantine tank. What I try to do is add my fish before coral, so I only have a quarantine for a few months.
 
a) don't medicate a well fish.
b) use your qt to adjust salinity slowly for acclimation
c) I don't maintain a fulltime qt tank. It's easy to set up a qt tank in minutes: use tank water discard, use a bare tank, use a particulate filter and test the daylights out of it. People kept marine tanks for years with a simple floss/carbon filter, and you can do it for a few weeks. You won't be cycled, but just feed modestly, test very, very often, at least once a day, and you'll be good. And if I may paraphrase MMckibben, don't run a fish hotel---plan, get your fish in a given set of months, one or few at a time, and then quit adding fish for good. Every time you bring a new fish in, you risk all sorts of things.
 
I bought a 10g tank, heater, powerhead, lights, simple sponge filter, and set it up with a big piece of sponge filter from my DT to help with the cycle but the levels never really cycled. Why is it that a regular tank needs 4 weeks to cycle but the QT is supposed to be ready to go? PLEASE I want to know how to use the $150 I spent to do it right with the QT and keep the levels in check
 
Okay you posted while I was typing. Let me say thank you for taking the time to help with this. Okay so I pull 10g from my DT and it goes into my QT and I use a filter that just passes water through it as it goes through a sponge, its a hang on the back one. Is that the type your refering to?

I am just kinda scared to put a new fish in an uncycled tank especialy when my amonia is high like it was last time I tried
 
QT only serves it's purpose if very strict rules are followed. Setting up a 10 gal tank and monitoring fish for 2 weeks is pretty pointless IMO. If you are going to do it you should get something out of it. Treat all fish for parasites and have a separate fishless QT for corals / inverts for 8 weeks of observation.
IME good husbandry is more effective than the standard observation QT for fish only that most practice.
 
Okay you posted while I was typing. Let me say thank you for taking the time to help with this. Okay so I pull 10g from my DT and it goes into my QT and I use a filter that just passes water through it as it goes through a sponge, its a hang on the back one. Is that the type your refering to?

I am just kinda scared to put a new fish in an uncycled tank especialy when my amonia is high like it was last time I tried

You may want to try Seachem Ammonia Alert.
 

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