No idea what happened

Worldwithin

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So, yesterday I decide to do a long needed water change. Granted it was only 15 gallons on a 150 net system, but something is better than nothing, right?

So I start off by pulling out 5 gallons from my grow out tank for my baby Clarks and take 5 gallons out from my display tank use it to put into my grow out tank. Grow out tank done. Next, I kill the pumps on the display, scrape off the algae from the glass, and proceed to pull out 10 more gallons. Once I finished draining the 10 gallons, I walk outside verify my salinity in my change water - I had to add some salt to get it to the 1.025 I wanted, and begin to put it into the display tank. 15 gallons out, 15 gallons in. I then crank up the pumps and everything is back to normal.

Now the confusing part.

After about an hour or so, I notice that one of my chromis is on the bottom of the tank, mouth wide open, dead. Huh??? I start to look around, and notice that I only see the big fish, not any of the smaller fish. So I look around some more, and find the second cromis in the same fashion, mouth wide open, dead behind a rock.
Still looking, I notice that my Royal Gramma is ok, but I cannot seem to find any of my Anthias. Luckily found one swimming around, but I had three.

To make things worse, I left for a dinner engagment, and when I returned home that evening, my tank is completely cloudy from my carpet anenomie doing what appeared to look like spawning. I kick up the skimmer, and thankfully that helped to clear it up somewhat.

Everything seems to have balanced itself out to some extent. The final toll seems to be the two chromis, one anthias, and most likely a second anthias as he is not looking good at all. The third anthias, aside from having some torn up pectoral fins for some reason, looks good. I have not noticablly lost any inverts like shrimp, snails, or crabs. Nor does any of my corals appear to be in bad shape. Somehow something I did affected my smaller fish, and I have no idea what it could be. My grow out tank with the baby clarks is doing just fine.

Just some info on tank and other stuff. 135 gallon mixed reef with (initially) 3 Clarkii clowns (2 adult, 1 juvinile), 1 medium to large sailfin tang, 1 medium to large coral rabbitfish, 1 adult flame angel, 1 royal gramma, 3 bartlet anthias, 2 blue/green chromis. Tons of tonga mushrooms, a variety of zoos, a very large (2 foot diameter) green carpet, kenyan tree corals, and some small acro frags. At least 150+ pounds of live rock.

The change out water is from a 15 gallon trash can that I have been using the following setup for at least two years: RO/DI with 0 TDS from the output, Reef Crystals salt, heated and mixed with a modified MJ 1200. The only thing I did with the water was added some salt to bring the SG to 1.025 from the 1.015 it was at for my breeding tanks. I have been using this water for the breeding tanks with no issues.

So the question is, what the heck happened or could have happened to only affect 4 realitively strong fish just for doing a water change?? I tested the water parameters and everything is where it is supposed to be. I have been using the same method for water changes for several years and have never had anything remotely similar occur.

Any ideas??

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This is a doosy! Maybe something in the bucket or whatever you used to transfer the new water? It might have been something that wouldn't show up in any tests and was in low enough concentration not to kill all the fish. Maybe the new water was a diff. temp? I will have to think about this one some more.
 
Well, I just lost the anthias that wasn't looking too good. I am at a total loss for ideas at this point. I am rather concerned about using the water from the mixing station at this point. Not really sure how to test it out to see if it was causing the issue. I may just go out and replace the trash can just in case, but I don't even know if that was the cause of it all considering I just used the water from it for my baby clowns with no issue.

Ugggg... I am so frustrated right now.
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Sorry to hear of your losses. Several things to mention here from my own sad experiences, which hopefully may ring some bells with your situation:
I dropped a T5 into my 100-gallon while doing a water change. Anemone, corals either partly closed or unaffected, inverts unaffected, but I lost my entire shoal of chromis and a royal gramma over the next week. They got red sores and died one by one. Maybe something has a short and or got dislodged? Check for current leakage with a voltmeter.
My roommate started parking her motorscooter next to my Rubbermaid(tm) trash can and contaminated it with enough exhaust and gas fumes to wipe out half my inverts before I realized what was going on.
How long after your adjustment to your salinity did you perform the water change? Freshly mixed saltwater can be LETHAL, as I discovered to my sorrow when trying to recover from the gas fumes catastrophe mentioned above. The theory is that invisible salt crystals lodge in the fishes gills and burn them. Whatever the mechamism, this phenomenon is particularly problematic for fish, IME.
We have an enormous load of airborne spores here in Dublin for some reason and I simply cannot keep my saltwater drums outside or they get overloaded with golden brown algae and go south eventually, saltwater drum is in the coat closet now.

hth,

OnTheReef
 
Thanks Reef... Things to look into.. I did add the top off salt about 10 or so minutes before I added the water. Having done that before with no ill effects, I didn't even think of that as an option. I too keep my mixing station outside, and I am sure that it does get some airborne junk in there, but haven't had any issues that I know of. Thankfully I don't have an electrical short... I did actually look for that.

The only thing that I can think of (aside from the salt thing you mentioned) is that I did spray for ants outside near where the mixing station is about 2 weeks ago. I have since used the water on my baby tank, with no issues, so if that is the cause, I am baffeled.

Anyhow, when I think about it, it is a strong possibility for the salt thing as the fish that have died so far were the ones that most likely were swimming in the mix as I was pouring it into the water. Definately something I will change from this point on.

I really hope that was the cause.

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