Noo!!! AEFW!!!??

I have seen aefw come off rocks / frags which did not have acros on them while dipping. So yes, it is possible.

I dip lps and find undesirables such as asterina stars in the dip bucket.
 
cpllongjk said:
You got the reef equivelent of stds. What have you been doing to your corals?

Flatworm exit works wonders, but be careful, a little bit goes a long way. Less is more, wait till some of them die, then add a tad more. It takes a little while to sea some dead.

Also flatworm exit does not kill the eggs. You need to dip each coral individually with some type of coral cure or iodine solution. I have a product called tropic marin pro coral cure. Get some and before you add anything to your tank dip it in this for a good few seconds. Also shake the frags while dipping from now on to hopefully shake off any eggs on the bottom of the plugs.

Many people do not like dipping their frags because they typically brown out for a few weeks afterwards but I swear by it. It saves my reef from coral stds.
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In my opinion tropic marine pro coral cure is the last thing to use to fight aefw. I really only use it on corals other than sps corals. Also like stated before your post and after your post EXIT doesn't work for aefw... Just incase someone missed that :headwally:

Bolo Tran, I found that trying to dip everything all at once in a 20L or something was easiest. Also I dipped for 8 weeks straight because I skipped a week (wasn't aware of melafix...) because I had no more revive and found eggs on an acro only 12 days after the last dip. Also having a bucket of fresh tank water to THOROUGHLY swish off any stragglers. Second pair of eyes to help look for eggs helped keep me "calm" each time.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I've been reading a lot of good things about Bayer insecticide as a dip so going to my local Home Depot tomorrow to pick up a bottle. Anyone else have good experience with it?
 
I feel your pain, Bolo Tran. I've been there. I do have a healthy reef now, but had some sad losses to the worms. A close reefer friend of mine has claimed success with Bayer insecticide dip, but his situation involved red bugs. It appears there has been success with Bayer VS AEFW, but potency levels and overall effectiveness have been debated. You should read up first hand if you haven't already. Sounds like you have, but I'll link anyways.

Here's a good start primer for the Bayer:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1965880&highlight=bayer
 
Here's an update and please tell me what you think.

After doing dips for 4 consecutive weeks I have found zero aefw on any of my frags. Weeks 1-3 were done with Bayer and 4th week was done using Coralrx. No aefw fell off any frags whatsoever.

The first time I found aefw on only a single frag that seemed to be the only one infected. Not sure how that could have been as that frag was one of the first ones I added to the tank. No other frags ever since have been infected.

So does this mean I have these little devils defeated since none have been found in a month? Please tell me it's so.
 
You are winning the war but I would continue dipping for at least 2 more weeks. Well done keeping up the effort to this point.
 
Sorry to hear you got this dreaded pest Bolo. Do you have any non acros in your tank like plating montis? If so are you removing them too?
 
Bolo Tran said:
Here's an update and please tell me what you think.

After doing dips for 4 consecutive weeks I have found zero aefw on any of my frags. Weeks 1-3 were done with Bayer and 4th week was done using Coralrx. No aefw fell off any frags whatsoever.

The first time I found aefw on only a single frag that seemed to be the only one infected. Not sure how that could have been as that frag was one of the first ones I added to the tank. No other frags ever since have been infected.

So does this mean I have these little devils defeated since none have been found in a month? Please tell me it's so.
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No
 
Thanks for the replies. I do plan on doing 2 more weeks worth of dipping rest assured. Just a little excited that I'm not seeing any in the dips so I thought is report in to all those that helped out. So after 2 weeks more of dipping and i don't find any does that mean I'm in the clear?
 
I hear these suckers make their presence apparent in the tank and corals will show you they are there. If your not seeing them now-keep it up cause it sounds like your making it. Dont stop your dipping reg just yet...better safe than sorry. I to use the home depot bayer dip and get good results but even after dipping I manually remove crap from the frag that may have not fallen off-scrape scrape chizzel dip :)
I am currently dealing with a sps rtn from the base issue on multiple colonies and after unattaching-dipping-and inspecting have yet to find signs of any of these pests so im leaning swing problem. But I still wasnt going to take any chances. It was mentioned once previously in your thread about FLATWORM STOP. This is not FLATWORM EXIT and works in a different way for a in-tank treatment. I have fish buds who have used this with success on aefw and I am currently on a 3 month sched with it just in case. It is good for your acro's either way. It doesnt attack the flatworm dirrectly rather than it builds a thicker film on your acros keeping the flatworm from being able to feed and gradually declining your flatworm problem-only problem is usually when you find the buggers a gradual treatment takes to long as they will destroy your acros fast.
Hope all is picking up for you.
 
Thanks afamousjohnson. I feel your pain about the stn from the base up. I know this doesn't help you with your problem but in my previous tank I went through what you're going through. All my sps one by one started to stn from the base up and I never was able to figure out why. It made me quit the hobby for 2 years as it was disheartening to watch all my colonies take a downward spiral. I pretty much just let my tank die off as I couldn't stand to bear the pain of looking at it.

I hope that you have more will than I did and figure out why yours is happening and please report in if you figure out the culprit. I tried everything from daily testing for swings, stray voltage, changed calcium reactor media, bugs, and the list goes on. IMHO aefw is easier to battle than the stn issue as the reason is known.

Sorry and I know that didn't help you to fight your problem but just wanted to share my experience. I wish you the best of luck!
 
Thanks Bolo. Ya its totally lame and I have done extensive research into the subject and have found it is common and largely veiwed as "unknown". I have done bill nye the science guy :) experiements over here in access trying to get an answer and though nothing yet have learned a lot of cool crap that either way will help in the future. One thing I can say is that after seeing it continuely spread up a piece and getting sick of it-I finally gave in the towel and decided to put all the growth and pleasing placement look aside and start taking down infected colonies. Cutting above the problem area to save as much as I could leaving the infected base in the DT to observe. I noted on every piece I've cut down now in a majority rules case that the stn/rtn stopped on the base after cutting and are now slowly healing. The tops all are sitting at 100% recovery still unattached. That might help someone that reads this in the future-bite the bullet-save your coral before its to late-frag or cut.
 
What dosage / duration did you use with the Bayer?

Bolo Tran said:
Here's an update and please tell me what you think.

After doing dips for 4 consecutive weeks I have found zero aefw on any of my frags. Weeks 1-3 were done with Bayer and 4th week was done using Coralrx. No aefw fell off any frags whatsoever.

The first time I found aefw on only a single frag that seemed to be the only one infected. Not sure how that could have been as that frag was one of the first ones I added to the tank. No other frags ever since have been infected.

So does this mean I have these little devils defeated since none have been found in a month? Please tell me it's so.
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Sps keepers, anyone experienced aefw in the system yet sps are growing?
With polyp extension and still maintaining the colours?


Is it even possible?

Also are you guys w aefw just living with it? As I know getting rid of the, totally is near impossible unless you decom.

Pls share your takes
 
I got through it with regular Bayer dips for a couple weeks and by introducing a couple Sapphire Damsels. They are small enough to get into all the tight areas and seem to like the flat worms pretty well. I went from seeing them on my glass regularly to not being able to find them anywhere. My coral never seemed to notice them, so I didn't have a bad case but I think I just got lucky and caught them in time.
 
Between your corals not noticing them, and your seeing them on the glass frequently, it sounds like you had planaria, a type of flatworm but not acro eating flatworms.
 
+1 prolly not aefw if on the glass

When I started with the bayer dips it was 5ml dip to 500ml water for 5 minutes. Since than I have noticed the corals can handle much more and now use 40-45ml dip to 1500ml water for 10-15 minutes. But I know peeps that use much more than me for longer time with still success. I have also pretty much dipped all types of corals with this dip and change times according to coral but my recipe above I use for my sps.
 
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