November Meeting Poll

[NeonGobyOhio]

Typically these workshops as Erik has noted are designed to educate club members on this type of "how to" workshops and not so much on a moneymaker for the club. If we cover all the costs for the workshop and provide something for the presenter were in good shape.

Paul

C-Sea Treasurer

 

[MJAnderson]

Actually if you're short on space, run a higher GPH pump to the carbon, run the output of the carbon to the input of the phosphate with a "T" and ball valve and a ball valve between and just redirect the extra flow back into the sump. Saves a pump and one less thing to plug in.

 

[ChickenCannoneer]

Just FYI, it might be better to run the phosphate remover through the carbon as there is some debate between free iron that is released from those removers and pinched mantel in clams. Just thought that you would want to know, Tim

 

[Kreeger1]

Its a debate, not fact though. I've never had a problem with any of my 4 different type clams running phosoban straight as Im sure many others too.
Can't believe everything you read young reefer.

 

[ChickenCannoneer]

Thats why I said "debate" and not "this is a fact and you have to listen to it"

 

[MJAnderson]

Well it only works if the first chamber gets more flow than the second. I had read that as well although I thought it was the aluminum ones that people were concerned about. Back to the chemistry forum for me!

 

[Kreeger1]

Mj is right, it was the aluminum based removers that the debate was over, I personally have no experience with them so I can't comment on them. I just stick with the iron based ones, no brand prefference just whats in stock at the critter

 

[Kreeger1]

So if I understand this right there will be a 1/2 in and a 1/2 out? Thanks, Tim

Nope


three feet of 3/8" ID tube for the effluent line and about the same of 1/2" ID tube for the feed line.

 

[ChickenCannoneer]

I am not trying to scare anybody with the facts but I want them to be known. It is the IRON based removers that are the source of problems. All that is needed is a little bit of carbon on top of the other media. Thanks, Tim

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7484545#post7484545 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mbbuna
if you dont already know this is caused by an unknown protozoan. i followed every PM related thread i could find on at least 10 boards. the one link that most everyone had in common was the use of iron based PO4 removers or iron/trace elements. i also found a study linking Perkinsus hyper activity with elevated levels of iron. i know you said you stopped using phosban but there may have been excess iron still in the tank.so when you brought the infected clam in to the tank it had the iron it needed ans spread to the other clams.

 

[MJAnderson]

Here's Randy's article about Phosgard releasing aluminum.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm

Here is his article about the safety in using GFOs based phosphate removers.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php

Randy might be wrong, but if so I'm screwed as I've trusted him on everything else.

 

[ChickenCannoneer]

The aluminum may cause problems as I can read from the article but the problems from aluminum seem to be wide spread throught the entire aquarium. The suspected protazoa that causes PM is supposably fueled by free iron leached from the media. I am not saying that RHF is wrong but we are talking about different things, Tim

 

[MJAnderson]

I'm sorry, but are we supposed to pick this stuff up? If so, where? Looks like you have ID numbers on there.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8271245#post8271245 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kreeger1
Parts list for the reactor were builing
4" flat cap 1751035004
4" T cone test plug 34004
1/2" uni seal 10102
poly insert hose barb 1/4" MPT x 3/8" insert 0736053
poly insert hose barb 3/8" MPT x 1/2" insert 0736053
compact ball valve 1/2" slip 350005
sch 40 90 degree elbow 1/2" slip x slip 406005
bushing 1/2" slip x 3/8" female thread 438073
sch 40 coupling 1 1/4" slip x slip 429012

So there will be plent of fun diy putting together. And its something that most club members don't have too. Actually I don't no any with a 4' media reactor.
C-sa will supply all parts need to make this unit once a price is forumlated we will post that and payment will be due at this months meeting.
This reactor will not come with a pump due to different media needs different flow rates, i.e. phosoban needs slower movement due to finer particles vs carbon. So this workshop will be the cheapest of the 3 to do also.
Erik

 

[Kreeger1]

Nope, those are parts the club will supply, you must have missed that post.

 

[MJAnderson]

OK, thanks. That's what I thought but when you gave out part numbers I was confused. I confuse easily.

 

[itZme]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8277308#post8277308 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MJAnderson
I confuse easily.

LOL you ain't kiddin'

 

[MJAnderson]

So I don't get on Eric's bad side I'll post in this thread...

What size tank would this be for? I know the TLF media reactor is good for up to 150g.

 

[Kreeger1]

Its a made up piece, I guess it would be for what ever size you tank you'd want
Thank you though, just trying to keep things organized a bit.

 

[tye_c]

Is this for C-Sea members only or will it be open to CORA members?

 

[Kreeger1]

This is open to cora membes as well. I need to get htis posted in the cora forum soon.
Erik