Snail$Pace
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mummra100769 said:
I was asking if there was a link to check out; I don't have one myself.
oceanic salt "bad press"
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I was asking if there was a link to check out; I don't have one myself.
mummra100769
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oh bummer
Snail$Pace
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I found the link 6th post down:mummra100769 said:
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5685&highlight=Oceanic+salt
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mummra100769
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great links.i just read about fifteen pages on like three different threads and still no one saying that it had caused a total wipe put of the tank.
here is another thread on the subject:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=407011&perpage=25&pagenumber=3
here is another thread on the subject:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=407011&perpage=25&pagenumber=3
After switching to O, I've had major problems with red turf algaes in my 72g.. Never had any problems before with TM, coincided almost perfectly with the switch. I've switched back to TM at this point and will hopefully see an improvement. I do weekly 15g-20g water changes (if not more often) on that tank.
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mummra100769
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what component in salt could cause algae blooms i wonder
Saltz Creep
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Phosphate. Some people claim they've detected it in significant concentrations in freshly mixed salt while others have detected nothing. Bad batches, faulty testing, algae coincidence, who knows?
After 3 months or so of Oceanic use, I switched back to IO about 4 weeks ago. I had dino's out the wazoo, all over the back of my tank and my rocks. About 3 weeks ago I took all my rocks out and scrubbed the dino off, same with the back of my tank. Three weeks later, I still have a small amount of dino's on my back glass, but nothing like I had before.
What I find interesting is I did test my freshly made Oceanic, CA was 480, dKH was 8, phosphate 0, but my Mg was 1080 - all using Salifert test kits and RO/DI water. Everyone else reports high levels of Mg, but mine was a bit low.
HTH
David
What I find interesting is I did test my freshly made Oceanic, CA was 480, dKH was 8, phosphate 0, but my Mg was 1080 - all using Salifert test kits and RO/DI water. Everyone else reports high levels of Mg, but mine was a bit low.
HTH
David
MiddletonMark said:
Same here. I just set up a 125 in October and my LFS only carried Coralife Salt. I asked the local Reefers Club and found good things about Oceanic and switched. My Ca runs high, above 550, and my only trouble is pH/Alk that I correct with ONE teaspoon of Baking Soda in 1 gal of RO/DI water dripped over 24 hours. WALA... No more problem
Snail$Pace
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The impurities that cause algae are bound up in the ingredients the salt is made of. So it's the grade of ingredient used which are starting from worst to best are:
Industrial grade
Food grade
Pharmacy grade
The lower the price of the salt is made by using what grade?
Industrial grade
Food grade
Pharmacy grade
The lower the price of the salt is made by using what grade?
I've been using Oceanic since day 1 which was about 8 months ago. I've had my share of algae blooms but I can't say I would attribute that to the salt. The only thing I've found is that it's very high in calcium (like 550) and low in Alk. It's easily corrected with a little baking soda in the new mix though. As far as the high calcium I really don't think that will cause any problems but if it can negatively effect my corals please let me know.
Snail$Pace
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thrlride said:
Tropic Marin does have a good reputation! I have to mail order it if I want TM because the only LFS that sells it charges $130.00 for a 200 gallon bucket! UPS to my door is $69.00.
No wonder I'm not happy some days when I see prices like that!
kozmo02
Premium Member
i used Oceanic since the day I was able to buy it up until I had to tear down my tank and I never had a single problem, in fact, I switched from Instant Ocean to Oceanic, I even did a 25% water change the first day I got the Oceanic with the IO mixed water in the tank and I never had a single problem, no nuisance algae, no coral loss, nothin'.
I dont see why only certain people seem to have problems with a salt, it seems like if there were serious issues with it more people would have problems, and yet tons of people have and still use Oceanic with no problems, and have never had any problems.
I dont see why only certain people seem to have problems with a salt, it seems like if there were serious issues with it more people would have problems, and yet tons of people have and still use Oceanic with no problems, and have never had any problems.
melev
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I think it is coincidence. Many of us try to figure out what happened last when something occurs in the tank. I know when my skimmer goes nuts, I'm trying to ascertain what I did to change the water tension. I'm to the point now that I honestly believe my Mag 12 is surging, and thus sometimes the water level is higher in my skimmer, sometimes lower. It has nothing to do with water tension, as my pump was just cleaned thorougly and nothing else makes sense. Maybe the impellar needs replacing.
Regardless, unless each person that reported GHA outbreaks tested their newly mixed saltwater for PO4 and found some, I don't believe it is salt-related.
I too haven't had any problems out of this salt.
Regardless, unless each person that reported GHA outbreaks tested their newly mixed saltwater for PO4 and found some, I don't believe it is salt-related.
I too haven't had any problems out of this salt.
mummra100769
Premium Member
good point.i think it is unfair to blame a salt for all your tanks ills.
grallster said:
In my situation that is not the case, I change 15 gals of water every Sunday morning - when I was using IO, when I made the switch to O and in making the switch back to IO.
My tank was running without any issues and the only thing that was changed is a switch to O salt. Within a month I had a major Dinoflagellates breakout. After battling it for a while, I switched back to IO and the Dinoflagellates diminishes. With the salt change being the only difference, what other logical conclusion is there? And I've been keeping saltwater tanks for 11+ years now, always used IO unti my recent use of O. Never had a dino breakout until I switched to O.mummra100769 said:
In one of the other Oceanic threads, someone did point out that the vast majority of the those complaining of algea outbreaks are from the northeast. I would bet any moderator's paycheck that someway, somehow a bad batch got out, and the batch was shipped to the northeast.
Just my $0.02
David
