OK! Enough chat...Starting a 1000g+ Reef
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chris wright
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11530546#post11530546 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bbrantley
Can you lower the water level in this one for now? It seems that would greatly reduce the risk of a blow-out, and you might even just skip the repair.
Since you never give us FTSes anymore, I can't remember how high your coral bed is and what the impact might be.
Ben
:lol: To funny.
I'd go the temp repair, and design a system, based on past experiences, giving you some new ideas and better ways to do things. I'm sure there's times when you wished you had done things diferently.
jnarowe
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I never wish I did something differently! 
Actually Ben, the system is built around a coast-to-coast overflow, so I can't lower the water level. I understand what you mean though, and if i do th etemporary fix, I wll have to drain out about 7600+g in order to effect that repair.
When I do the swap out, I will be using one of these:
Pearls of Paradise
Actually Ben, the system is built around a coast-to-coast overflow, so I can't lower the water level. I understand what you mean though, and if i do th etemporary fix, I wll have to drain out about 7600+g in order to effect that repair.
When I do the swap out, I will be using one of these:
Pearls of Paradise
sherm71tank
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Hey Jonathan, for some reason Pearls of Paradise brought a much different vision to my head!
chris wright
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
no comment :lol:
melev
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11531201#post11531201 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
I never wish I did something differently!
Actually Ben, the system is built around a coast-to-coast overflow, so I can't lower the water level. I understand what you mean though, and if i do th etemporary fix, I wll have to drain out about 7600+g in order to effect that repair.
When I do the swap out, I will be using one of these:
Pearls of Paradise
I know your tank is big, but it ain't that big!
My big concern with these types of pools is that risk that the plastic will tear. Some LR is quite sharp. Would you put something down, like sheet foam, for the rock to sit upon?
jnarowe
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:lol: I didn't catch that. 700g is the correct number.
I have given that some thought. I wouldn't use foam but I might use acrylic, PVC, or egg crate. I could also dump in a few bags of sand, but that would make the break down a hassle. Sand would be the best though in terms of avoiding a tear.
That particular "koi pool" is made out of really thick stuff and is much better than the kiddie pools.
I have given that some thought. I wouldn't use foam but I might use acrylic, PVC, or egg crate. I could also dump in a few bags of sand, but that would make the break down a hassle. Sand would be the best though in terms of avoiding a tear.
That particular "koi pool" is made out of really thick stuff and is much better than the kiddie pools.
steve the plumb
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looks like you have a lot of work ahead.I would get a new tank.Why drain everything to do a temporary fix and then have to do it all over again.How long will it take to design a tank?Its a box with water in it.The choice now is do you want a cl in it or will you do power heads.I would go with those big tunze pumps but make some kind of fake box to hide them.Will you go acrylic again?You said you were thinking of a hybrid tank.I wonder if you went all acrylic but after took a pane of glass and silicone it to the front panel.This way the front would be glass and you wouldn't have to worry about scratches.The glass wouldn't have to be thick since its only purpose would be to keep the front panel free of scratches.
I have one of those intex easy set pools that has freshwater stingrays in it and lots of large rock it has been up for over two years never leaked there is only foam under the pool ti keep it insulated from the concrete floor i think that the give in the foam allows the liner to stretch a little instead of tearing. I have all kinds of large rock stacked but I do know people who have the pearls of paradise pools and the quality is ten fold better then the intex
jnarowe
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The pool has a 1.5" BH already, which is perfect for my spare Sequence 4300. For the tank swap, I would set the pump up to feed the skimmer and filter sock the output, with the output above the water level of the tank. This would provide extra aeration since I won't be able to pipe in fresh air like I do in the tank room.
I have an extra 1000W ballast and dish style reflector that I would hang above the tank. Shouldn't be to damn hard to hold the stuff. It's the back and forth of it, fish aggression, and coral health that I am worried about. Every story of tank swaps I have heard about includes some livestock losses.
I would also set up a "frag" tank separately in case there is a major melt down. I have thousands of dollars in corals I would hate to lose. No matter how well things are planned out, there will be significant risk.
One nagging problem is my ability to manage complex tasks. I remember back in 2000 I planned and executed a move of our entire store to a new location. We closed down at 3pm instead of 6pm, and reopened the next day at 9am in the new location fully operational.
This past year (actually going back into '06) we expanded our store into the next unit. This involved new equipment, pulling down the wall between, new signage, and redecorating. And the work is still not finished. I am just not the guy I used to be, and that makes me nervous about attempting this swap.
I almost wished this on myself in a way, because I have seen many horror stories about people taking down their tanks because of pests, catastrophic failures, etc. and I have always told myself there's no way I am going to be able to do that...sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy I guess.
It all boils down to my feelings about the animals that rely on me. I take their lives much more seriously than most hobbyists. It's just how I am. I remember a few years ago my cat was showing signs of age, and my wife and son approached me and said it was time to get rid of the cat.
I told them the cat had been with me twice as long as either of them, and that if anyone was leaving, it would be them, not the cat. I think that about sums it up eh?
I have an extra 1000W ballast and dish style reflector that I would hang above the tank. Shouldn't be to damn hard to hold the stuff. It's the back and forth of it, fish aggression, and coral health that I am worried about. Every story of tank swaps I have heard about includes some livestock losses.
I would also set up a "frag" tank separately in case there is a major melt down. I have thousands of dollars in corals I would hate to lose. No matter how well things are planned out, there will be significant risk.
One nagging problem is my ability to manage complex tasks. I remember back in 2000 I planned and executed a move of our entire store to a new location. We closed down at 3pm instead of 6pm, and reopened the next day at 9am in the new location fully operational.
This past year (actually going back into '06) we expanded our store into the next unit. This involved new equipment, pulling down the wall between, new signage, and redecorating. And the work is still not finished. I am just not the guy I used to be, and that makes me nervous about attempting this swap.
I almost wished this on myself in a way, because I have seen many horror stories about people taking down their tanks because of pests, catastrophic failures, etc. and I have always told myself there's no way I am going to be able to do that...sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy I guess.
It all boils down to my feelings about the animals that rely on me. I take their lives much more seriously than most hobbyists. It's just how I am. I remember a few years ago my cat was showing signs of age, and my wife and son approached me and said it was time to get rid of the cat.
I told them the cat had been with me twice as long as either of them, and that if anyone was leaving, it would be them, not the cat. I think that about sums it up eh?
jnarowe
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rottbo Thanks for the input. I have one of those Intex pools at the ready but it is not big enough for the swap. It is big enough to hold the water for the temp. repair if I decide to do that. I have 15 sq. ft. of grapple mat that I will use under the pools for insulation and a little give.
jnarowe
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Well I started on the scraping today and discovered that my Therme Algae Terminator is not heating up. 
Last time I used it was about 4 months ago and it worked just fine. I called the number on their web site but got the guy's wife on a cell phone breaking up, so hopefully he will get back to me and figure this out.
Not cool because the coraline is so thick, it won't come off with standard scrapers or even a DIY acrylic scraper. I really need some elves.
Last time I used it was about 4 months ago and it worked just fine. I called the number on their web site but got the guy's wife on a cell phone breaking up, so hopefully he will get back to me and figure this out.
Not cool because the coraline is so thick, it won't come off with standard scrapers or even a DIY acrylic scraper. I really need some elves.
mrcrab
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11535445#post11535445 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Well I started on the scraping today and discovered that my Therme Algae Terminator is not heating up.
I really need some elves.
Put your back into it lad, Aaaaargh!!!! :lol:
Haven't you trained your fish to do that yet?
steve the plumb
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I think you may need some sea urchins.I can tell you they love to eat coralline but I don't know how safe they are with acrylic.Get about ten of them and you would be surprised at what they can do.
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