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david00061

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If your still on the fence... SPS and LED lighting you can see and read all about my tank after running radions for two years. You can veiw my build thread.
And you can read and view pics in the latest issue of Reef Hobbyist Magazine.
http://www.reefhobbyistmagazine.com/archives/vol_7/issue28/pages/18.htm
I do have growth and color shoots in my build thread
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I have a 715 tank with (7) 400 watt 14K Metal halides. Have always been afraid that LED's just can not put out enough light. Curious for this size tank how many LED units do you have over it.
 
I read your write-up the other day, nice to see you here and nicely done. I gotta say though that's one hell of a lighting set-up, bet they are BRIGHT!
 
its the spread that keeps me away ... LED tanks dont seem as bright ... or like not enough light everywhere ...
 
its the spread that keeps me away ... LED tanks dont seem as bright ... or like not enough light everywhere ...

I agree with this. I made the switch from mh to leds about a month ago, and my first thought was that it seemed too dim. Corals don't seem to mind, all are keeping their colors and growing. If anything, I have a little better pe. Time will tell, though. I am keeping the mh in storage in case I want to go back.
 
Over $8,000 worth of lighting and with all due respect to you and your tank I'm just not impressed. A mh/vho, mh/t5, t5, t5/led hybrid would be way cheaper to setup and the money left over could pay the "higher power bills" for a substantial ammount of time. Not to mention the better colors that you get with any of the above mentioned setups. Your tank looks great and hats off to you but the initial setup cost and colors you achieved don't equate imo.
 
Agreed, I think you would have better colour with ati hybrids over it, or mh/t5.
Although you have some nice colonies, the LEDs only show certain colours.
I've tried both led only, led/t5 and now I'm back to an ati powermodule. Growth and colours r better
 
Over $8,000 worth of lighting and with all due respect to you and your tank I'm just not impressed. A mh/vho, mh/t5, t5, t5/led hybrid would be way cheaper to setup and the money left over could pay the "higher power bills" for a substantial ammount of time. Not to mention the better colors that you get with any of the above mentioned setups. Your tank looks great and hats off to you but the initial setup cost and colors you achieved don't equate imo.

Let's see a picture, son
 
My tank has 3 Apollo reef led pendants. Brand new they cost $350 each and are good for a 2' square foot print. Their grid pattern greatly improves the spread and spot lighting issues with "puck" lights. My tank is a 125 gallon 72" x 18"w x 22"t, lights are 8" above the water. As for intensity, people that know a red planet know more light makes them more red. Less light makes them more green.

This is about 6" Off the sand bed below a brace
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A couple observation about my LEDS.
1. They don't make for good photos. The blue is just too powerful. It washes out the color and makes things look pastel Or heavy actinic. I get me best macro pics (on my iPhone mind you) late in the day when the sun is coming in my bay window. Or if I can flood the room with some sort of ambient lighting. But this is not an issue with the naked eye.

2. They shouldn't be center mounted pointing straight down. even with the grid pattern of my apollos there are still an extremely fine point light source and will cause heavy shadowing. The tops of your coral will be very vivid. But the sides will not. When I get the chance i will be re mounting my lights to the front and Angle them at 45 degrees or there about towards the back.
 
Pay to play

Pay to play

Guess my point is I have a 420 gallon tank with T-5 MH combo and for what was spent in lighting with 16 radions would cover my electric bill bulb replacement and initial set up cost for more years than the radions will be usable. LED's don't last for ever.
It's 500G... you gotta pay to play
 
Guess my point is I have a 420 gallon tank with T-5 MH combo and for what was spent in lighting with 16 radions would cover my electric bill bulb replacement and initial set up cost for more years than the radions will be usable. LED's don't last for ever.

Well cost isn't a factor to some people, that's all I can say regarding this.
 
C'mon fellow reefers. Someone is kind enough to share their extraordinary tank, you need to show courtesy. Beautiful tank, beautiful pictures. Colonies that pretty and that big require a great deal of time and a great deal of diligence. 500 gallons is extraordinary as well. Few if any are able to handle that level of commitment, all the equipment, water changes, maintenance,cleaning, reactors, dosers, pumps, controllers, a gizzilion wire outlets, plumbing like nobodies business, a big room to place the tank, water changes that are humongous( think abiout 10% water changes weekly=50 gallons), the list goes on and on and includes an equal amount of financial commitment to make it all come together. So thank you for sharing. Thank you for your pictures. Thank you for gracing us with your experience and knowledge.

To those of you that criticize, do you have any idea of the heat that mh would put out for a 500 gallon tank and what that would require in chilling not only the tank but the room itself. ATI powermodules cost is astronomical as well, for those t5/led aficionados. And choosing what one thinks is the absolute best choice irregardless of cost is a personal choice. If I could afford a Chagall, Picasso, or Rivera , I would own them all, but in the meantime posters cover the walls, but art is art. I'm happy with posters on the walls and they look good, still wish I had a couple of masters work nonetheless. And I still visit galleries and museums because talent and inspiration are always worthy of the visit to sit in the presence of beauty

Kudos to you, great colonies, big and beautiful.

I am a metal halide/t5 guy but always checking out what is developing with alternative lighting. Thanks for the thread
 
C'mon fellow reefers. Someone is kind enough to share their extraordinary tank, you need to show courtesy. Beautiful tank, beautiful pictures. Colonies that pretty and that big require a great deal of time and a great deal of diligence. 500 gallons is extraordinary as well. Few if any are able to handle that level of commitment, all the equipment, water changes, maintenance,cleaning, reactors, dosers, pumps, controllers, a gizzilion wire outlets, plumbing like nobodies business, a big room to place the tank, water changes that are humongous( think abiout 10% water changes weekly=50 gallons), the list goes on and on and includes an equal amount of financial commitment to make it all come together. So thank you for sharing. Thank you for your pictures. Thank you for gracing us with your experience and knowledge.

To those of you that criticize, do you have any idea of the heat that mh would put out for a 500 gallon tank and what that would require in chilling not only the tank but the room itself. ATI powermodules cost is astronomical as well, for those t5/led aficionados. And choosing what one thinks is the absolute best choice irregardless of cost is a personal choice. If I could afford a Chagall, Picasso, or Rivera , I would own them all, but in the meantime posters cover the walls, but art is art. I'm happy with posters on the walls and they look good, still wish I had a couple of masters work nonetheless. And I still visit galleries and museums because talent and inspiration are always worthy of the visit to sit in the presence of beauty

Kudos to you, great colonies, big and beautiful.

I am a metal halide/t5 guy but always checking out what is developing with alternative lighting. Thanks for the thread

Thank you very much. As all I wanted to do is show that LED lighting can grow and color up sps coral.
I am working with Acans right now as I heard a lot of reefers at MACNA say that LED light will not color up Acans. I will do a follow up post on this in a year or so.
 
Beautiful tank. The (7) 400 watt Metal Halides over my tank requires a 1.5 HP Chiller that runs several times a day when the lights are on. Not only the fact I feel like I am getting a sun tan every time I get near the tank. lol
 
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