One good thing to know about shop vacs...

tcoral

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Is that they overflow!!!! I was so surprised when I was vacuuming out some water when the container started siphoning and overflowing, making a bigger mess all over the floor :(. So don't use a shop vac on a bigger volume than it is listed for. Well it did clean up the water that it dumped on the floor after I emptied the container.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15666146#post15666146 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RonMidtownStomp
Mine has a float in it. When it floats up, it shuts the air output so it can't produce a vacuum anymore.

Yes but the float valve does not stop the back syphon when you turn it off!

Tina
I had the same thing happen :eek:
 
I guess I never vacuum enough water with it for it to syphon. I only use it to get the last bit out of the bottom of the tank.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15667119#post15667119 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RonMidtownStomp
I guess I never vacuum enough water with it for it to syphon. I only use it to get the last bit out of the bottom of the tank.

LOL, long day, but I should have guessed that 1" of water on a 135 gallon tank > 6 gallons.:rolleyes:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15667119#post15667119 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RonMidtownStomp
I guess I never vacuum enough water with it for it to syphon. I only use it to get the last bit out of the bottom of the tank.

Ron I was vacuming the bottom with the tank full.
It is my own dumb fault LOL, but Jenny sure was peaved!:eek2:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15668278#post15668278 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefer334
Ron I was vacuming the bottom with the tank full.
It is my own dumb fault LOL, but Jenny sure was peaved!:eek2:

LOL, and here I went out and bought a 6 gallon shop vac to prevent making a mess, and it flooded my floor!:rolleyes: What brands and sizes are others using? I got mine from Target. It's supposed to be quiet but still sounds like a jet taking off!:rolleye1:
 
I have a Rigid 5hp 12 gallon from Home Depot.
It has a drain for water to. Now I just put it on a garbage can and drain it into the can every few minutes.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15669429#post15669429 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefer334
I have a Rigid 5hp 12 gallon from Home Depot.
It has a drain for water to. Now I just put it on a garbage can and drain it into the can every few minutes.

I was debating on getting a Rigid from HD, but it didn't include a squeegee attachment. Do they shut off when full? I did like the filter on the Rigid better. (thinking multiple uses over just water duty, like litter sand pick-up :) )
 
Hmm. Don't think I understand. Yes, in general, shop vacs do have a ball in a chamber under the suction area such that when the liquid level in the vacuum gets near the top the ball will float upwards and shut off the vacuum. But clearly since the hose is usually connected to the side of the shop vac and thereby most likely underwater when the float has shut off the vacuum, the only way I can see it siphoning water out is if one lowered the vacuum hose end below the equivalent level of the side port to which the hose was attached. And even then only the amount of water above the side hose connection should flow back out. All this is given assuming a standard shop vac build configuration that I understand.

I'm having a hard time picturing out your setup (i.e. tank vs. vac vs. end hose elevation positioning) such that would lead to a siphon effect.

Certainly the concept of a siphon effect is something every reefkeeper learns sooner or later and especially around water change time.

I can easily see a drainage event happening when one goes to lift the shop vac with two hands into a vessel for waste and the hose lies down. Nonetheless, I don't see this as a shop vac failure but rather a lesson or two learned and shared here.

Finally, let me know if anyone has discovered a shop vac that doesn't require hearing protection to operate nearby. They all are VERY LOUD and users should wear hearing protection IMHO.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15683164#post15683164 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boviac
Hmm. Don't think I understand. Yes, in general, shop vacs do have a ball in a chamber under the suction area such that when the liquid level in the vacuum gets near the top the ball will float upwards and shut off the vacuum. But clearly since the hose is usually connected to the side of the shop vac and thereby most likely underwater when the float has shut off the vacuum, the only way I can see it siphoning water out is if one lowered the vacuum hose end below the equivalent level of the side port to which the hose was attached. And even then only the amount of water above the side hose connection should flow back out. All this is given assuming a standard shop vac build configuration that I understand.

I'm having a hard time picturing out your setup (i.e. tank vs. vac vs. end hose elevation positioning) such that would lead to a siphon effect.

Certainly the concept of a siphon effect is something every reefkeeper learns sooner or later and especially around water change time.

I can easily see a drainage event happening when one goes to lift the shop vac with two hands into a vessel for waste and the hose lies down. Nonetheless, I don't see this as a shop vac failure but rather a lesson or two learned and shared here.

Finally, let me know if anyone has discovered a shop vac that doesn't require hearing protection to operate nearby. They all are VERY LOUD and users should wear hearing protection IMHO.


LOL, vacuum on floor, hose is higher since vacuuming out tank bottom therefore making a siphon since the end of the hose is higher than the vacuum :). Yeah if we were using it to vacuum the floor, it probably wouldn't have that problem :).
 
ha ha ouch.... yes once it is a solid water slug in the vac hose, I can see this. And of course your attention is on the tank until you hear the splashing of water coming from the vacuum! Thanks for sharing. ;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15688535#post15688535 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boviac
ha ha ouch.... yes once it is a solid water slug in the vac hose, I can see this. And of course your attention is on the tank until you hear the splashing of water coming from the vacuum! Thanks for sharing. ;)

EXACTLY, then the HOLY *&%^ reflex kicked in, turn off the power, water is STILL pouring out. And here I thought getting it was supposed to save me from messes :rolleyes:
 
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