ORA Sps Frags

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13944086#post13944086 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by muzz
It amazes me too, but I have to disagree on the decent price part. I think they are overpriced, as are many frags in this hobby. But people are willing to pay it. I think a decent price would be 20 to 30 bucks max. Just my opinion.

Compared to tickets to sporting events, I'd say frags win... For example: One Lakers ticket goes for $260+ (ok seating, price level 2) and parking is something like $22... I'll take 5 frags any day :lol:


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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13943887#post13943887 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by muzz
Less light to keep the green.

And crappy growth. I'll do without the green over just having a nice frag! I want colonies in my tank. Grown from frags of course!
 
I noticed that a lot of the red planet frags posted on this thread are really small... Does this coral grow quickly? Is it a milli? Should it be mounted horizontally?
 
My red planet has shown good growth in the last month and ahalf Ive had it. Its about a foot from the lights(t5s) and still has its green. I spot feed and its color is awesome
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13944625#post13944625 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mclaman
Is it a milli?

No it's a table acro. Their polyp configuration is similar but when put side by side there is a definite difference in the two. They grow relatively fast once happy.
 
here is a shot of the purple plasma

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and another angle of the red planet

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13944513#post13944513 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 60Cubed
And crappy growth. I'll do without the green over just having a nice frag! I want colonies in my tank. Grown from frags of course!

Wait a minute, you said good luck keeping that green, if you do, let us know how you did it. So I said to keep the green, it needs less light. And then you come back with, yeah and crappy growth. Talk about being rude........you ask a question, get an answer, then blast the answer. I never said anything about growth, just how you keep the green color. By the way, how can you say crappy growth? Have you done comparisons? How long have you had yours? If you will do without the green, then why ask how to keep it inn the first place?
 
What? I wasn't being rude. There has to be a way to keep that coral green and keep it growing normally. ORA manages to do it so we should be able to also! Putting it under low light isn't a solution, it is putting off the inevidable of losing the green. I was just saying I would live with no green over no growth! Jeesh!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13944086#post13944086 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by muzz
I have to disagree on the decent price part. I think they are overpriced, as are many frags in this hobby. But people are willing to pay it. I think a decent price would be 20 to 30 bucks max. Just my opinion.

Their "suggested retail" prices are kind of high...
 
You can still get good growth with less light. If you look at say a cali tort, or a pink lemonade colony, the interior branches of a large colony retain their green color because the light is diffused. If you blast them with light, they become blue or pink, but if they get either indirect light or are put at the bottom of the tank, they will retain their green color and the tips will be pink. You will still get good growth. I have seen some pictures where they are turning pale because it seems some people are blasting them with light and causing them to bleach.

Red is one of the first colors of the color spectrum filtered out as light goes through water. And wee know that blue penetrates deepest. A very shallow water coral that has red in it, when blasted with sun or light, will grab that red light and use it, and become more red. So in theory, if you give it less light or diffused light, the red polyps and tips will remain, but the body will retain its green color. Mine is at the bottom of my tank between two 400w pendants. So it does not get blasted. The polyps are red, the tip is the only red part, and the rest of the coral is deep deep green.

You could also dose iron and I think magnesium to help with green coloration, but I would not receommend that to everyone, as it is very easy to overdose or tint your water using too much iron. That is just my experience with green bodied corals......
 
Mine has lost a lot of it's deep green base. It also has a very white growth tip. It is growing well just not as green. I would say it is fairly low in the tank, about 12" below the surface with a 400w 12k RFlux that is 20" above the water. That would be 32" away from the bulb. I wouldn't say that is too much light to lose it's green. It just does! Different tanks have different colorations I guess.
 
I also think you cannot
keep the green with out low light. I don't mine because when you get a large colony there will be areas that won't get as much light which will get that green back for you
 
It said $200 min. fish order before you can order corals :D

Maybe there is another price list for people who don't want $200 worth of clowns.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13954565#post13954565 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rickyrooz1
I think everyone would be interested to see the wholesale prices. I found the September ORA invoice sheet. $30 for the new frags that are selling for $89.99 on Live Aquaria.

http://jandareef.com/gallery/d/1788-1/ORA+September+#5.pdf

Wholesale prices *should* be a lot less than what you see on a retail site or LFS. It takes an army of people to staff a retail operation. Wholesale prices stay low because they are making fewer total deals while shipping larger quantities.
 
On top of the $200 fish purchase you are limited to one Red Planet per order as a retailer.

That's why they are so expensive.
 
And those stores have to order the fish minimum in order to buy just one frag. It is a genious or brutal move on ORA's part, just depends on how you look at it. A local store gets quite a few pieces from ORA on a regular basis near me, and I get a good deal on them. So I am one of the lucky ones, as right now, they have all the new pieces in stock. Heck, they even got four red planets on their last order.

I still think they are overpriced, but we all pay those prices. Most places I know of sell them at a retail price of 80.00, which is extremely high for a frag. But ORA markets them well, they are well encrusted, healthy, and they do not flood the market with them.

I think it is unfair though to compare a coral frag price to a ticket to a ball game, or the price of a car, or whatever.....compare them to another coral. You can get a wild colony for 50 bucks that is ten times bigger, but it will not be as colorful, and it may not even live. I know what we are paying for, but in a year or so, when there are more of them being traded among hobbyists, you will see the prices at a more realisttic price. I know you can now get the cali tort for about 30 bucks, and it used to cost 80. Now if I could just get my hands on a true oregon tort for a better price......
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13949984#post13949984 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 60Cubed
What? I wasn't being rude. There has to be a way to keep that coral green and keep it growing normally. ORA manages to do it so we should be able to also! Putting it under low light isn't a solution, it is putting off the inevidable of losing the green. I was just saying I would live with no green over no growth! Jeesh!!
I sold my red planet to a buddy as it is way to close to the Christmas mirabilis I already have. In my tank it was being blasted with light in the highest light zone I had. The color was very washed out and growth was also very poor in my tank. We positioned it to receive moderate, in direct lighting with very good flow in his tank and also mounted it horizontally. In just a few weeks the colors are back to being amazing with the green very prominent and the growth is definitely taking off. I do not think this coral "needs" high light to be happy and grow well. It defnitely looks better in lower light. Even if it did grow a little slower in lower light, I'd take a smaller, awesome looking coral over a larger washed out piece any day.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13954685#post13954685 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rickyrooz1
We cannot buy ORA corals directly from ORA. They only sell to fish stores.

Yep and who needs 400 clowns for a few frags..clowns and dottybacks are the only real fish they have and seahorses. so you need to make up a 200$ min out of that ..So if a store makes 3 orders they will have a ton of clowns
 
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