Order to introduce stock

[Shaummy]

All,

Thanks so much for responding to my previous posts regarding my restocking list for my 90gal tank.

Here is what we finally came up with:


Blue Throated Trigger (currently in tank)

Potters angel
Flame Hawk
Purple Tang
Pseudochromis possibly Fridmani
A wrasse (6line/fairy/coris etc..)
Basic cleanup crew (snails/hermits)

I realize that I cannot just dump them in at once, so what order should the new stock be added?

 

[Edward Smith]

Beautiful choices. Call Jeff at Deep Reef Aquatics for the info. Most of the people here have a huge knowledge base but you can always count on Jeff's expertise.

Will the flame hawk eat the cleaning crew? Anyone have one?

 

[canar]

Jeff is cool. I bought all my new tanks from him. Probably be a good idea to buy something from him though if you want to use his knowledge. Not that he would even think of not helping someone.

I need to stop back in there. It has been weeks. I know he was setting up some new tanks for corral. I wonder if he ever got it done.

Ted

 

[Teremei]

1) add tangs last
2) add firefish and wrasse types first
3) never add a sixline wrasse
4) never add a blue damsel

5) never add a blue damsel

 

[whiirly]

be careful adding a Potters as well.
I had three in my four years 2 from fish stores RIP and one from a reefer who was getting out that one I got to see eating and thriving in a tankand but they are one of the harder dwarf angels to keep

 

[Doubledown]

Add the tang and the pseudocromis last. The dwarf angel just before that and the wrasse and hawk first.

I second going to see Jeff and ask for his advise - very knowlegable and carries all the fish you have listed.

 

[Doubledown]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8188547#post8188547 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Edward Smith
Will the flame hawk eat the cleaning crew? Anyone have one?

Ed, I have both a Flame and a Longnosed Hawkfish in my reef. I have not seen either of them eat any of the snails, shrimp or hermits I have in the tank. Even if they did eat the occasional snail that was dumb enough to fall over, having the fish in the tank is well worth it to me. They both eat Rod's food like candy. Maybe once they had steak they just didn't want hamburger anymore?

 

[Edward Smith]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8191142#post8191142 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Doubledown
Ed, I have both a Flame and a Longnosed Hawkfish in my reef. I have not seen either of them eat any of the snails, shrimp or hermits I have in the tank. Even if they did eat the occasional snail that was dumb enough to fall over, having the fish in the tank is well worth it to me. They both eat Rod's food like candy. Maybe once they had steak they just didn't want hamburger anymore?

I've always wanted one but shyied (sp?) away because some people had flame hawks so aggressive, that they actually swam up to the glass and knocked the snails right off then attacked them on the ground. I'm hoping this is just a more extreme experience. It's probably a variable fish personality thing. I think I'm going to try. Just think ther'yre cool.

 

[mbunaman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8190378#post8190378 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Teremei
1) add tangs last
2) add firefish and wrasse types first
3) never add a sixline wrasse
4) never add a blue damsel

5) never add a blue damsel

Whats wrong with a sixline?? I think sixlines and yellow corris wrasses are the best pest removal wrasses I have ever seen and a must have IMO for zoa and monti keeper. If your worried about POD removal I would not worry I have a 120 show that has a corris and sixline and at night my glass is covered with pods and you see tons of mysid shrimps swimming around. And never seen them dent my population. Most firefish may not get along with the fridmani. I had a flamehawk mow down three cleaner shrimp in 3 days. He was certainly fat. So caution on the flamehawk.

 

[Soggy Pockets]

Ted,

Was in Deep Reef last week and NO the tank they brought in for corals is not (was not) set up yet. Having trouble with a bulkhead that is leaking that they cannot remove, and also having troulbe leveling the tank/trough. Did not ask when they think it would be up and running.

Bill.

 

[Teremei]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8191447#post8191447 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mbunaman
Whats wrong with a sixline?? I think sixlines and yellow corris wrasses are the best pest removal wrasses I have ever seen and a must have IMO for zoa and monti keeper. If your worried about POD removal I would not worry I have a 120 show that has a corris and sixline and at night my glass is covered with pods and you see tons of mysid shrimps swimming around. And never seen them dent my population. Most firefish may not get along with the fridmani. I had a flamehawk mow down three cleaner shrimp in 3 days. He was certainly fat. So caution on the flamehawk.

No matter where I hear it, it is always when they get a bit older (maybe 1-2 years) that they always end up being a bully. Even to medium sized fish larger than they are.

And what pests are you specifically thinking of? I'm hoping you are not thinking of bristleworms as pests as that's what I've heard they go after mainly.

 

[mbunaman]

Mine is huge and the one in my buddies tank is huge. The only fish it would be a bully to is a fish in the same family or some pseduochromis's. But mine and my friends dont bother anyone. Pest I am talking about it nudibranches, baby sundial snails and red planaria (red flatworm)

 

[SaraB]

My sixline was a huge bully to any fish added after him. He was trapped and traded at the LFS.

 

[Shaummy]

Ok...so I've gotten everything from Talk to Jeff to Tangs last

What would you do if it were you?

First:
Pseudochromis possibly Fridmani
A wrasse (6line/fairy/coris etc..)

Second:
Dwarf Angel maybe Potters

Third:
Flame Hawk

Last:
Purple Tang

Any gotchas in this order? I really think I would want one other fish in there...just not sure what it would be right now.

 

[G13]

Do not add the sixline first (i wouldn't add at all), if you do want one add him last.

1st...Flame hawk/wrasse (non-sixline wrasse) and psuedochromis at the same time. They will stay closer to the rocks and away from the trigger's swim space.

2nd...Purple tang and potters angel (I'd go with a flame or african flameback, instaed of the potters) at the same time. Trigger might get a little used to other inhabitants but might still bother them since they will swim in the triggers area. But at least they can split the aggression.

Only bad thing, if the trigger goes completely berserk, you'd have more than 1 fish to worry about.

Reason for adding more than one fish at a time, if the trigger decides to bully a fish he won't be able to concentrate on one fish.

IME...Adding 3 fish at one time in a 90 gallon tank isn't a big deal, why do I say that because I've done it in a 45 gallon and had a friend add 5 fish in a 75 gallon (I'm not talking about large fish, about 1"-3"). This was all done with a somewhat established tank with 2 lbs per gallon LS and at least 1 lb of LR per gallon, also in my tank I run an aqua C remora skimmer and always run carbon (don't know if the carbon helps).

 

[Shaummy]

Thanks G13.

The phase in was more to help my wallet than the tank really.

I have been reconsidering the Potters back and forth. I was a bit concerned that a flame angel would have some problems with the flame hawk being the same coloration.

Anyone heard bad things about a Lemonpeel angel instead? I might just go the standard coral beauty route or something.

The Blue Throat is prett tame, and has not been aggressive when he had inhabitants with him so I don't expect any major conflicts.

One of my concerns was that the trigger is such a fast swimmer to food that it could be more difficult for the new fish to get some.

 

[Shaummy]

BTW..any thoughts on hogfish (like Spanish). I don't know the temperment and size in this mix.