OT: Pond forum

what size ? I was going to do that dug the hole ordered the lining . Then said forget all this I have to many projects now and filled the hole in . Long story short I have a large pond liner for sale . I think it is 30 feet by 32 feet from farm tek supplys it cost me $500.00 I will sell it for $250.00 if he is interested .

DST
 
I will have to ask him.. I'm not sure how big he wants to go or how soon he wants to start the project... I think it would be fun to do!!
 
Hey Lonnie I can give you some ideas on how to do a pond. First step by a couple sump pump pits from Home Depot to make your overflow pump reservoir and the other for your bio-filter full of lava rock "easy". Wait for a good used Mag drive pump in the selling forum. Get a good liner & make sure to use sand underneath. A couple of bulk heads and some flex pvc. Put your pump reservoir down stream and your filter reservoir at the top billowing out. Cut a couple boards to fit over the top. Find yourself some landscaping rock and your set. :thumbsup:

Pond forum is right here:D
 
I have put in two ponds by hand, the latest at my home Im in now. I have done much research and know a thing or two about it. First thing is do NOT use a pre formed pond liner. They are too difficult to fit with a hole, they can crack and leak after a few years, and they are not deep enough for a normal st louis winter. Best way to plan it is use spray paint and outline the pond on the ground. Make sure you take into account run off from rain, gutters (roof runoff can poisen a pond over time) and where the water will go when it overfills. You dont want the low side next to the house!!

The best way for filtration IMO is a skimmer box set into the ground with the pump set down inside it. It needs to have a large holed filter bag for leaves and a smaller filter for other junk. The pump will push the water back up hill to your inflow box/waterfall, hence creating a nice flow to the pond. You will also want to get fieldstone (small flat rocks) to stack inside of the pond to give it a natural look and protect the liner from UV

Mine is 24 ft by 12 ft in a kidney shape and a bridge over it. Dug by hand ( that was a *****) but I was able to put a ledge inside the pond on which to set plants. You need to make sure it is 36" deep so the fish can stay in it year round. Some of my fish are almost a foot long and they are three years old

If you or your friend would like to stop by just shoot me a pm.
 
STL guy..... for a setup like yours how much money are we talkin? not including the bridge! My wife is curious and is considering a pond.

Wes
 
He saved alot by digging it himself.

If you think the mark up on reef stuff is high, pond people make a fortune off of pennies on the dollar.
 
I will take a pic if I get a chance tonight (going to some lame *** saltwater meeting, nothing as exciting as a pond meeting)

:rolleyes:

I think my total expense was around $4000 but that was because I put a total of 5 tons of rock around it and on a pathway. The liner and pump were the most expensive items as I got a huge pump with a 2 inch hose for a gushing waterfall.

I not only saved a bundle of digging it myself, but I got to dig it the way I wanted so the bottom has a slight angle to it so the sediment collects in one part of the pond.

I usually empty it once every 2 years and powerwash it down then refill and put everything back in. My duaghter thinks it cool when the fish are swimming in her little pool LOL
 
I was doing some research on a pond for my backyard last year and I did find a forum that was oriented toward ponds. I'm not sure if it was at a freshwater site's forum subcatagory or ?? There was mention about some kind of roofing material that can be used for the liner which was thicker, stronger and much cheaper than the typical pond liners you buy marketed for ponds. I wish I could remember what it was called though.
 
It's just rubber roofing material, it goes in a number series for thickness, there are a couple brands. There is a place out by the Chesterfeild air port that sells it. It's waaaay cheaper.

The people in the pond buisiness try and scare you away from it and say is chemically treated, hahahaha, not the case.
 
Some of the epdm rubber for roof material does contain an algaecide but not all of it. I'd be hesistant to use it if I wasn't sure. I have done/dug several ponds. It's pretty cheap to do it yourself. I'll post a pic in a little while of mine current pond.
 
These were taken last summer:

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I would be glad to offe any advice I can. As I always say I'm not cheap, just broke. This whole thing, not counting all the bedding plants only cost me about $350 bucks digging myself.
 
I have used EPDM roofing for a pond at my parents old house years ago and they never had any problems. That was before the pond craze took off. I put a 10'x12' w/ a 30' stream in at my house last summer and am still adding more rock and landscaping this spring since I did nothing with it over the winter. I used 45mil EPDM liner made for ponds because it was working out to about just as much as roofing and I could but the pieces that I needed not a roll how they sell roofing. I put a surface skimmer in this pond and would recommend it.
 
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