Overflow box, safe or risky?

LifeReef's U tube is designed in such way that bubbles won't be trapped on the top of the U. The flow will ensure the bubbles are always push out onto the next chamber.

Since the first chamber only skim the surface water, in theory, only the microbubbles can enter.
 
The pump that is used to push the water back into the tank is the main concern, never use a pump rated more than your overflow can handle. I use an Aqua Clear Aquatics u-tube style overflow right out of the box now for over 2 years and never had a break.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6662552#post6662552 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dchao
LifeReef's U tube is designed in such way that bubbles won't be trapped on the top of the U. The flow will ensure the bubbles are always push out onto the next chamber.

Since the first chamber only skim the surface water, in theory, only the microbubbles can enter.
That is the design of any decent U Tube overflow. As long as there is sufficient velocity through the U Tube, bubbles do not collect. LR does do it a little better than most. The skimmer box is deep which creates more pressure.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6662521#post6662521 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bsaastad
The risk comes from the possibility of bubbles collecting in the top of the U tube and eventually breaking the siphon. That's the purpose of the evacuation line at the top of the U.
Totally unnecessary because of above. All you are doing is adding a vacuum leak when there was none before. This will increase the likelihood of a failure.
 
I'm running 3 cpr overflows with a small $10 vacuum pump on each one. The vacuum pumps are in the basement just above the sump. If the pumps fail the water in the line creates the suction as it falls to the sump below. I've turned the vacuum pumps off and it does work without them. If I cause one to fail the other two pick up the slack. I haven't tried turning two off yet. The overflows are noisy. The next thing I'm going to do is insulate them with hard foam board to reduce the noise.
 
U Tube overflows don't need all sorts of tricks to make them work. Just the laws of physics.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6663634#post6663634 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jbirdjjones10
I would be very leary of anything that uses a "small 10 dollar pump" to stay working correctly.
I'd be very leery of anything that needs a pump of any type or cost to stay working correctly.
 
So far no problems. Will have a surfboard ready in case you're right.

I did test failure modes (vac pump quits, one overflow quits) and the system continued to work. CPR does list gravity as one method of keeping the flow going. I have gravity and the pump working for me plus a backup overflow. Thanks for your concern. Just in case, what other hang on overflow can handle 1200gph?
 
"I'd be very leery of anything that needs a pump of any type or cost to stay working correctly."


I've never seen a tank without a pump :). Maybe a goldfish bowl.
 
What if the air nipple clogs? It happened to me twice. It looks like you have lots of redundancy. Lifereef has an overflow rated for 1400 GPH, although I'm not a fan of high display -> sump flow.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6664325#post6664325 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rm
"I'd be very leery of anything that needs a pump of any type or cost to stay working correctly."


I've never seen a tank without a pump :). Maybe a goldfish bowl.
LOL. You know what I meant. :lol:
 
I did but couldn't stop myself :)

FYI CPR's were basically given to me by lfs because of all the worries people have about them quitting. That is why I'm running a backup and why I use the pump plus gravity. I have not been able to make it fail. Other problem was the lack of high volume u tube overflows.
 
Air nipple clog

This has happened to me once so far. Backup worked. The overflow with the clog slowed but did not stop. Took me a while to figure it out.
 
Well, at least the price was right! Be sure to keep the air nipples clean. Poke them out with a paper clip once in awhile.
 
sjm817

Nice overflow, I'll be wanting one.

I'm guessing I'll still have to contend with noise.
 
I run a LR single and am happy with it. How much total flow are you pushing? What size display and sump/fuge? Again, I dont like the idea of excessive display->sump flow. Noise is just one of the issues.
 
120g display
30g fuge

Blueline10o rated 1900gph at outlet. This rises 8ft and through a few turns to the main tank making the height seem more like 20ft.

I have a bypass to the fuge so I can cut back flow to the tank but leave it wide open.
 
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