overflow install help for 300g

Kaiser24

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I just purchased a 300 gallon acrylic tank but the HOB overflows it came with seem a little weak. I was curious what my options are with a new overflow and where the holes should be drilled. Is there a certain GPH they should be flowing? where would I purchase em? inside height is 28.5 inches
 
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You should really go talk to John at FAOIS. Figure out what your return pump gph is rated at for the head height of return. I can't imagine a HOB overflow working well on a tank that size and if you're unsure what you're doing you could end up with a disaster. I can't speak for him, but he'll likely suggest drilling the tank and installing properly sized bulkheads and overflow boxes. Being that it's acrylic it should make for an easier job.
 
you should really go talk to john at faois. Figure out what your return pump gph is rated at for the head height of return. I can't imagine a hob overflow working well on a tank that size and if you're unsure what you're doing you could end up with a disaster. I can't speak for him, but he'll likely suggest drilling the tank and installing properly sized bulkheads and overflow boxes. Being that it's acrylic it should make for an easier job.

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Do a full coast to coast with a bean animal drain using 1.5" bulkheads. 1" bulkheads would probably work fine too but 1.5" will less likely to clog from snails. Drilling it would be extremely easy.
 
Do a full coast to coast with a bean animal drain using 1.5" bulkheads. 1" bulkheads would probably work fine too but 1.5" will less likely to clog from snails. Drilling it would be extremely easy.

I think 3 would be enough too, although I have 4 on mine.
 
3 1.5" drains would be more than enough. Here is beananimal's drain calculator.

Note: It's a flash calculator so it won't display on an idevice. Stupid Apple.
 
What does the average 300 gallon 8 foot tank come with ....how many overflows and how many drain/returns.....
 
My next tank will be done with ghost overflows. They are small but move a lot of water. I would do a couple of them in a 300.
 
What does the average 300 gallon 8 foot tank come with ....how many overflows and how many drain/returns.....

It all depends on how much flow you want through your display and sump and how you're setting up the drains. Personally I like a fast flowing sump. It keeps detritus from accumulating and brings new water in to be cleaned rather than cleaning the same already processed water.

From the research I've done on my 300 build I can share this.

Beananimal's design is virtually flawless so that's what I'll be setting up. Coast to coast is going to give you the best surface skim and that's what we're striving for.

First I determined how much flow my return pumps would generate. For me the Waveline DC12000's produce 2000 gph at 5 feet of head. To me that's not enough as I think a good rule of thumb is 10x the display. So to add more flow and for redundancy I'll add a second pump. Now I'm at 4000 gph. A little more than 10x, but that's ok. To get maximum efficiency from any return pump you should use whatever thread size it comes with and try to limit bulkheads, elbows, etc. I'll be using vinyl tubing and go up and over the overflow.

As for the size of the overflow itself. You can use RC's calculator. For me at 4,000 gph I need 60 linear inches of overflow. Keep in mind If you add teeth to the overflow you're cutting it in half or pushing the water level up and not getting a thin sheet of overflow. This can be fixed by adding plastic gutter guard.

Now back to the beananimal drain. Using his calculator I determined that at 42" of head on a full siphon 1.5" pipe would flow 4966 gph. But of course having the gate valve I can dial it back to the 4000 gph to match the returns.

Make sense? So for any setup, figure X times volume and match the pump. Use RC's calculator for overflow width. Use Beananimal's calculator to determine what size bulkhead. And you'll have your answer.
 
Is it critical to match the overflow gph to the return pump gph? I could see the return pump pumping too much and emptying a sump but wouldn't an overpowered overflow just slow down as the water line drops below the teeth?
 
My next tank will be done with ghost overflows. They are small but move a lot of water. I would do a couple of them in a 300.

is a ghost similar to the bean animal? I looked and it looks like the overflow box is internal and then goes to external to bean type drain? or am I all confused :).
 
If he does the bean animal will he have pipes out the back of the tank instead of the bottom so the tank will sit off the wall further
 
is a ghost similar to the bean animal? I looked and it looks like the overflow box is internal and then goes to external to bean type drain? or am I all confused :).

The ghost overflow was created by Reef Savvy. You are correct that it is a hybrid between internal and external overflow boxes. Although you could use a Herbie or Durso drain if you wanted to.

http://youtu.be/TtXkntfYgsM

im finding multiple "bean animals" is there a specific design your'e looking at?

"BeanAnimal" is a member here on RC. He created the drain design and has a thread called "Silent and Failsafe Overflow System".

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11756495

If he does the bean animal will he have pipes out the back of the tank instead of the bottom so the tank will sit off the wall further

It could be done either way. If the drains come out through the back there would need to be enough room inside the internal overflow box for an elbow facing down. For example, A glass-holes overflow box would not work because it will not fit an elbow. As for setting up a beananimal drain inside the tank all you need is 3 holes drilled through the bottom and an overflow box to house them. Again keep in mind that 2 of the 3 drains will require elbows facing down so you would need to account for the extra space.
 
is there a start here thread for the overflow/sump because I don't know what any of these terms mean that people are using in explanations. makes research easier when you can speak the language
 
the different type of pipes in this bean animal design, and a few other things ill keep researching and be more specific
 
Not sure what u mean by differnt types of pipes. Maybe u mean differnt types of fittings? Those r the pieces that connect the pipe.
 
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