Overwhelmed and looking for direction.

steelerspgh

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First post, about a one year lurker- you guys are amazing the info contained on this site is second to none, (as long as you have your BS filter turned on.:lol:) OK little backstory, bought my first tank 40gal in summer of 1996, had to hide it in my barracks room when i was stationed at the marine corps airstation in beaufort,sc. after it was found in my wall locker on inspection day, and was told to get rid of it,i was devastated,but requested mast and ended up getting permission from my CO to display it, as long as i kept it as beautiful as it was. im sure not many jarheads had authorized tanks prior to that incident. i was pumped and spent every hard earned tax dollar of yours that i got via paycheck into making it the best tank i could. it was amazing to my standards, and im sure would only amount to a refugium to most of yours. either way, i was hooked from that day on, a few months later my barracks roommate jason was vaccuming and put the handle of the vaccum through the front pane. fish rocks and water were everywhere, and emergency salt bucket held everything until i got back from the LFS with a brand new 75 gal. lost a few fish and never did find my percula but everything else survived the devastation, except for my roommate... ;p when i got out in 2000 i tediously bagged, bottled or packed my corals,fish live rock and sand and made the trip back home to pittsburgh. that was an experience and i dont reccomend boxing up your tank and moving, but it can be done! i had it back up and running in less than 48 hours, and all was well, then came the crash. about a year after that i bought some corline growth accelerator, it was the in thing at the time... I read the dosing instructions wrong and fish started floating, corals started separating. i killed everything. work,life,money all prevented me from starting that tank over. so here i am in 2012 with an empty 250 gallon to put up in my basement as a predator tank, and last week bought a 115T(ish) to put up in the bedroom as a full on reeftank. so what has changed in those last 11 years ive been out of the game? OMG everything! spent the last few month reading and reading and reading. im at wits end, so im now speaking up from behind the monitor and requesting some direction on what i need to buy. heres a list of everything i have so far:

115 gal tall glass cages tank 48x18x30 w/ overflow and predrilled schedule 80 bulkheads for the holes.
oak stand, canopy.

yep thats it, lol

now heres where you guys come in.
sump:im pitching my wet dry filter and bioballs and was probably gonna be buying a triggersystems ruby sump36
skimmer reccomendation:something that fits in the first compartment of that sump because i was thinking about doing an algae scrubber down there too but not sure yet, maybe just mangroves in the second compartment.
led lights was considering 1 orphek 156W for now centered, until i can afford a second, 2 should cover 48" but open to ideas, i would like to use the canopy since its gonna be in the bedroom and we like it dark!
controller: wow neat stuff, i know nothing about it, wish i had that years ago but technically i would be able to figure that sort of programming stuff out, i think... apex neptune was being considered after that exahusting forum discussion the otherday.. probably still going on.
what else do i need?

live rock sand all that stuff i got figured out as well as the cycling of the tank no prob. as far as creatures, ill take that with time, long term goal- sps lps softies fish. but one step at a time here.. i need to get this stuff ordered and set up first! any help, really i mean any help with the skimmer lights controller, and anything else you guys think i should have, would be greatly greatly appreciated

thanks in advance!
shawn.

yep thats it
 
Sounds to me like we crossed paths down there, though I was jumping on golden footprints on PI while you were swinging a DD-214.
 
Just wanted to say good luck and thanks for what you all do! Wish I had advice but I'm just as overwhelmed as you!
 
Place to start is at the basics: read the stickies up there ^ which may repeat a lot that you know, but that may suddenly take you down a new branch of the path that will have fewer problems. As with ANY information thread, the information is at the top of the file, not so much at the most recent post. SO start on page 1.

There are many ways to keep a tank, but if you go certain directions from the start, you will have less trouble. CHemistry is major, and there are some ways to do it fairly effortlessly once you get a good beginning.
 
Ex jarhead here too. OOH-RAW! Welcome back to the addiction. I will be following your thread as I am currently planning my first tank.
 
Shawn ... First, thank you for your service to our Country!

Skimmer - Reef Octopus ... have one LOVE it. You have a large tank so I'd get a 200 then get the sump that'll accomodate the other stuff you need.

Can't speak to LEDs. But as for lighting in general, decide what you want the tank to be and then pick lighting to support. Start with the END in mind.

Besides all the 'support' equipment like test kits, thermometer, hydrometer, heaters ... you'll want to consider an Auto Top Off system. Believe me, hauling water to top off is a PITA.

Think about maintenance NOW and plan for it. I have a 185 g that I put too close to the wall ... sigh. It works but not as convenient as it could have been.

As you know, patience is an essential ingredient. Take your time and do it right from the start. I look forward to your 'build thread.'
 
Great ideas guys! yut yut to all my fellow devil dogs, ive gone through the stickies several times in the last year, the contributions made by this community to the hobby are amazing. i have a basic understanding of what to do and when, i think im looking more for the opinions of members geared more towards brands of the items i need. the reef octopus skimmer suggestion is exactly what im looking for. ive already chosen several led options only to keep searching and see tens of negative reviews for that item, now i know youre going to have that with any item. its seems that everytime i make my decision and am about to hit add to cart, i get cold feet do more research find disputes over the items in question then im afraid to pull the trigger. are there skimmer controller led lighting options i can not go wrong with? you guys know better than me, i have simply been out of the game for way too long.
if you have something positive to say about a major component of your system this is a good thread to do it in. it would help me immensely! would love to make this a positive review thread. what brand name item do you have, that you couldnt live without?
 
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Leds the new Kessil 350 Blue Tuna 399 each will need at least two. Good luck read more follow build threads, TOTM .

those lights look great, although i don't think i can mount them inside the canopy i have. kessil recommends mounting 1-2' above water surface and they only list 24" max for water depth, I'm gonna have 30". if i end up getting rid of the canopy, which still isn't out of the question... i may get these pendants. thanks so much i haven't came across these yet! i did send an email to dave fason with nanobox about his LEDS, he recommended 2 for the 48" w tank @ $550.00 a pc. anyone have experience with nanobox lighting?
 
There is a big thread on the 150 Kessil Leds with a lot of fans and positive things to say. Another option is VHO lighting, its has gone out of favor but cheap, if this is fish only you could get two bulbs.
 
My lighting system is a Hamilton Technology system with MH 3-250W bulbs (14Ks on the outer 2 and I put a 20K in the middle... just to check the difference) and 2-96W actinic double bulbs with moonlights. I tried to find it on the Hamilton Technology website but couldn't and I don't remember the model number. When I first got it the size of it intimidated me but I installed it and really love it! It does put off some heat (obviously) and uses a good bit of electricity but my reef and anemones love the light and are all growing well and happy. Replacement bulbs are pricey but worth it (to me).
 
Oh, and also, with the MH fixtures you'll have a ballast for each light, so I had to put a second cabnet in beside the tank to hold them. They put off heat too. Just some added information that I didn't have when I bought the system.
 
skimmer- xp-2000 reef octopus fits in the first chamber but its a tight fit, good skimmer though.

I also recommend that sump, almost identical to the one i have, I'm running the skimmer in the first chamber, fuge in the middle and return on the end.

also there is an area in the announcements where we are starting kind of a support group for military reefers as we are moving more often than most people and it can be a pain, should check it out if you get a chance maybe someone close can help you with setup or something.
 
nice, i was considering going with a similar setup as the hamilton. but with all of the somewhat recent advances in LED technology- less heat, less power consumption i think thats what im looking to do. with a canopy i think the leds would be a better option. im not going to get a chiller unless i have to. those kessils are pretty cool, i guess my search has narrowed down to the following for lighting-
orphek 156W x2
-or-
nanobox x2
-or-
kessil x3 or 4 if i can still utilize the canopy, but probably cant since i only have 10 or so inches from water level to canopy wood. minus the hooks and the length of the canister its probably ruled out as an option.

im probably gonna pull the trigger on the trigger systems ruby 36 sump if noone has anything negative to say about it, any recommendations on a return pump for this sump? again, the tank is about 115g
sump Total Water Volume: 34.5 gallons and Operating Water Volume: 23.4 gallons.
 
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Here's the pump I got for mine.
 

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Also, here's the lighting unit. I mounted it directly into the hood. Before I mounted it I applied a heat barrier onto the canopy then mounted the fixture straight to it. Drilled circular holes on each end for the fans and cut a slit under the fan hole on one side so I could slide the glass cover out. In the last picture you can see the clearance when the hood is on the tank (before fixture was mounted). Light ended up being about 6 or 7 inches from the surface of the water.
 

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skimmer- xp-2000 reef octopus fits in the first chamber but its a tight fit, good skimmer though.

I also recommend that sump, almost identical to the one i have, I'm running the skimmer in the first chamber, fuge in the middle and return on the end.

also there is an area in the announcements where we are starting kind of a support group for military reefers as we are moving more often than most people and it can be a pain, should check it out if you get a chance maybe someone close can help you with setup or something.

was this the skimmer you were talking about?
http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/octopus-super-reef-xp2000i-internal-cone-skimmer-sro-xp2000

the dimensions on the skimmer were 12.5"x10"x22"
sump dimensions Drain/Skimmer Section: 12" x 14.5"
looks like it "should" fit
 
yeah thats the one, rated at 180 gallon, does great on my 90. It just barely fits with just enough room to get it in and out without too much trouble.
 
I have a Vertex IN-180 Skimmer on my 120g mixed reef. It's huge but man oh man does it do an amazing job. Also using 2 Illuminarium Reefbox 120 LED fixtures. Very bright and some beautiful color. I've had them on the tank about 3 months. Got a Bali Green Slimer frag a few days after installing them and have gotten some nice growth on that guy. All my zoas have babies, the LPS are all splitting and my chalice has added at least 8 eyes and about 1/2 of growth all the way around. I have a Reef Keeper Lite that I won in a club meeting raffle. Great little gadget.

Hope this helps and good luck with your new tank. =)
 
Why don't you try a space saver model like the Octopus Diablo DB2500. It's cheaper and plenty big enough for a 115 g. According to the web its:
Small Footprint: 12″ x 8″
Height: 23.6″
Powered by: Italian Sicce PSK 2500 custom pinwheel pump
Rated for tanks: 180-300 gallons
Acceptable sump depth of 8.5-10.5″
 
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