Bret61081
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Thats not Surprising. They get their fish from Segrest Farms and have some of the best fish connections around. They for a long time were the only ones getting red sea when no one else could. Beautiful fish. Good luck
Pairing Regal Angels (Expert help needed)
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Thats not Surprising. They get their fish from Segrest Farms and have some of the best fish connections around. They for a long time were the only ones getting red sea when no one else could. Beautiful fish. Good luck
They also get them from Trans Fish Intl. They are one of the best kept secrets in the industry. Nobody uses them because of the name "Petco" but they actually have wholesalers handle everything. They do not even handle the fish, it is simply dropshipping. There communication is horrible, but they honor the guarentee, no questions asked.
Chris, I dont want to sound like I am questioning you or challanging you, I assure you I am genuinely interested in your answer. How has this been validated? Do you know of someone that verfied this based off dysection or something? I am really just curious. I am super jacked that I may have just lucked out and got a male and female.
29reef
It's all about the flow
Maybe it's just me or the photos but I see two male angelfish. I would think sense your first one (DT) came out of a tank that it had been long established in it would be a male(please correct me if I'm wrong I know very little about marine angels). The QT fish looks to be of good size 4-5"? and they only sign that it's a female is the face, but even then the photo makes it hard to tell for me. Maybe this is just me not knowing but wouldn't a possible female in qt for several weeks become a dominate fish and possibly start the change to sub male if it isn't already? I'm sure someone will set me straight but IMO the males are normally larger, and in your case isn't the DT fish smaller than the QT fish? If it were me i'd be happy with just a single fish and find a new home for the other regal sense it sounds like you've got a lot of angels in your tank already.
Your comments are certainly welcome, but I am not sure angelfish are hemaphraditic like clownfish are they? The fish in QT is very small, if you look it still has a small part of its eyespot so it is just barely past juvenile stage. The one in the DT is an inch bigger and a full adult, so that squashes your theory. In you defense, it is very hard to tell from the photos. As far as just being happy with a single fish, that is your opinion, and I do not agree.
jhawkor
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Angelfish are Protogynous Hermaphrodites.
Need some help with treatment in QT. Got home from work today and #2 had a red spot on his right side bottom fin. It has a tiny cottony growth, with what looks like red irritation. His top fin appears to have the same irritation, but no cottony growth. I am treating with cupramine and prazipro. Should I be using something else. Sorry for the pics, these are the best I could do.
Read this on another site. Wonder if it is true with regals?
Both Centropyge and Genicanthus angelfish are protogynous hermaphrodites. Males are derived from females. If you add two females, one should change into a male within a short period of time, assuming both are mature females. Adding two males would be a no-no. Adding two juveniles is OK. They will sort out which one gets to be the male and which one will be the female through a process of sexual determination based on social aggression similar to clownfish but, unlike clownfish, the boss in this case will be the male.
Both Centropyge and Genicanthus angelfish are protogynous hermaphrodites. Males are derived from females. If you add two females, one should change into a male within a short period of time, assuming both are mature females. Adding two males would be a no-no. Adding two juveniles is OK. They will sort out which one gets to be the male and which one will be the female through a process of sexual determination based on social aggression similar to clownfish but, unlike clownfish, the boss in this case will be the male.
jhawkor
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I always thought all Pomacanthidae were protogynous hermaphrodites. Can someone confirm this?
29reef
It's all about the flow
Ah! Like I said I know very little about angels. Well yeah it's very hard to tell size from your photos sense they totally fooled me. Sense the new fish is much smaller I wouldn't think you'd have an issue with the two of them getting along; there's just the issue of all the other fish. GL
From wikipedia, so that it FWIW.
Thought to correspond to social rank, these colour shifts are not necessarily confined to males; all marine angelfish species are known to be protogynous hermaphrodites. This means that if the dominant male of a harem is removed, a female will turn into a functional male
Today is 1 week I have had #2 in QT. He looks a little better, seems very relaxed in his surroundings and continues to eat more and more each day.
When I introduce him, I will make sure to use the flipvideo to capture their interaction the first few days. I really want to share the experience of pairing these two fantastic fish with everyone. It will be awhile before I get to do it, but STAY TUNED!
When I introduce him, I will make sure to use the flipvideo to capture their interaction the first few days. I really want to share the experience of pairing these two fantastic fish with everyone. It will be awhile before I get to do it, but STAY TUNED!
Dtronic
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Well Regal #2 seemed to get better, then yesterday he looked worse. More cottony spots and I believe it is velvet. I went to Petsmart which did not have much of a selection and got "Fungus Cure" by API. It says it was for freshwater but I looked up the ingredients on my ipod touch on the internet and it said they could also be used for marine fish. They are acriflavine and victoria green b. The fish is still eating, and seems ok. A little scratching and funny swimming here and there. His breathing does seem somewhat heavy, but not out of control. Should I attempt a freshwater bath?
If you see this posted in more than one spot I apologize. Due to the nature of the disease, I obviously need quick responses and this allows for better coverage. Thanks.
If you see this posted in more than one spot I apologize. Due to the nature of the disease, I obviously need quick responses and this allows for better coverage. Thanks.
ccampbell57
Premium Member
Michael - do you have the fish in Copper?
If it is velvet the only cure is leaving the fish in copper for a duration of 14-21 days. Fungus care will only help with true fungal issues and help to irradicate infections. If this is a parasite then you need to kill it with the correct medication.
I would not administer any FW dips as the fish is already in a weak state and it could cause more harm than good.
If it is velvet the only cure is leaving the fish in copper for a duration of 14-21 days. Fungus care will only help with true fungal issues and help to irradicate infections. If this is a parasite then you need to kill it with the correct medication.
I would not administer any FW dips as the fish is already in a weak state and it could cause more harm than good.
It is in cupramine and prazipro which after a week has apparently done nothing to help, so if that is the case, it may not be velvet, and could indeed be a fungus issue. I guess we will see if he improves. I can always easily do a 100% water change to remove the medication if need be.
While I do believe he is definately weakened, this fish is still eating and swimming comfortably.
While I do believe he is definately weakened, this fish is still eating and swimming comfortably.
ccampbell57
Premium Member
I never say to do 100% water changes ever. That is harsh on the fish.
You need to leave the fish as it is if it is eating and swimming...give it some time.
What are your levels of Copper?
You need to leave the fish as it is if it is eating and swimming...give it some time.
What are your levels of Copper?
I do 100% water changes based off a recommendation from Copps. Not to mention my water parameters in my QT are always exactly the same as the ones in my 250 gallon tank(370 gallon system). My water change system is plumbed so that the waste water from the main system pumps into the QT and the QT overflows into the drain. I do water changes every 3 days so my water quality is extremely stable. This allows for a super easy adjustment from QT to DT, not to mention makes 100% possible due to literally identical temp, salinity and PH. I will have to run a copper test when I get home.
#2 was dead when I got home from work.
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