Panic AND FRUSTRATION !!!
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saleen00814
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"blue knees" lmfao!
sorry first time i have seen them called that.
anyways like the rest said. use ro water do some changes and increase flow. and a fuge allways helps most things
sorry first time i have seen them called that.
anyways like the rest said. use ro water do some changes and increase flow. and a fuge allways helps most things
2fishy
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Hey Uh_Oh, PAGE 2!!!!!!!
Have you read this thread since you have been back???
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1078532
And this will teach you to go on a cruise!!!!
Have you read this thread since you have been back???
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1078532
And this will teach you to go on a cruise!!!!
chris wright
In Memoriam
An interesting thread to say the least
Cynao, It is a combination of high nutrients, poor flow and light. I know, ive battled it as well. I cut back on the feeding, added extra powerheads, and closed the blinds so the light didnt get on my tank. I have no sump yet, so i set up a canister filter with carbon and phosex. I clean out the canister weekly, it collects a lot of crap.
After doing research on cynao, I found that the better the light, the better the conditions for cynao. The sun doesnt kill cynao and helps heat the temperature of the water ( the only factor we cant change in our tanks, over 18celcius is good for cynao, reefs are at about 24celcius), so the linked article that 2fishy added to this forum has good merits and facts about the lighting effects on algae and cynao. Try turning of your lights, what have you got to lose besides the nuicence algae.
Good luck with the algae, keep us posted
Cynao, It is a combination of high nutrients, poor flow and light. I know, ive battled it as well. I cut back on the feeding, added extra powerheads, and closed the blinds so the light didnt get on my tank. I have no sump yet, so i set up a canister filter with carbon and phosex. I clean out the canister weekly, it collects a lot of crap.
After doing research on cynao, I found that the better the light, the better the conditions for cynao. The sun doesnt kill cynao and helps heat the temperature of the water ( the only factor we cant change in our tanks, over 18celcius is good for cynao, reefs are at about 24celcius), so the linked article that 2fishy added to this forum has good merits and facts about the lighting effects on algae and cynao. Try turning of your lights, what have you got to lose besides the nuicence algae.
Good luck with the algae, keep us posted
UH_OH_5_OH
New member
I have half a dozen blue legged/kneed/footed crabs and at least 10 large snails !
UH_OH_5_OH
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9687307#post9687307 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 2fishy
Hey Uh_Oh, PAGE 2!!!!!!!
Have you read this thread since you have been back???
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1078532
And this will teach you to go on a cruise!!!!
I just shut my lights off !!! We'll see what happens in three days !
petoonia
HereWeGoAgain...
Sounds like you need more of a clean up crew. I would add about 20 more snails, and 10 more hermits to start. Astreas, banded trochus, and turbo snails have always worked best for me. I also have had good luck with scarlet hermits as well. You could also try an emerald crab, or an urchin. Good Luck!!!!!
cyclops23
Premium Member
do you have a TDS meter? i had a problem w/ cyano & hair algae. i got an $11 TDS meter and replaced my filters. water w/ old filters was at 22 ppm, w/ new filters-9 ppm. i need to get a better membrane to get it down further. i noticed a huge difference after changing the filters in the amount of algae.
UH_OH_5_OH
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okay folks....I'm on DAY THREE with the lights out...and my shins are all bruised up from bumping into things.
I'm confused though....I can still see the fish fine as I'm using the lights from the tank to make my way around the first floor of the house......
Anyway; 3rd day with the tank lights off....got two LARGE Sailfin Mollies...and will get a TDS meter tomorrow....and have a total of 90 gallons of water change water ready to go !
deep breath !
I'm confused though....I can still see the fish fine as I'm using the lights from the tank to make my way around the first floor of the house......
Anyway; 3rd day with the tank lights off....got two LARGE Sailfin Mollies...and will get a TDS meter tomorrow....and have a total of 90 gallons of water change water ready to go !
deep breath !
UH_OH_5_OH
New member
OKAY...there was an improvement in the amount of algae in the tank....but two days with the lights back on and the red cyano is creeping back in !
And the Sailfin Mollies.....haven't eaten anything...at least I haven't seen them eating any algae !
And the Sailfin Mollies.....haven't eaten anything...at least I haven't seen them eating any algae !
I have never seen cyno as a result of too much light. I would agree that it is from a water issue- quite possibly the RO unit. If water changes don`t help and you see increases in diatoms and cynos- then the water in the changes is the problem. I would suck out the slime - although some use antibiotics. I would scrub off whatever else of the other algaes you can in a bucket of saltwater so you don`t hurt the rocks life, and do a TDS test on the RO. MAke sure your skimmer and refugium are up to snuff also. This should be an easy problem to fix.
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papagimp
COMAS Rocks!
FYI, blue-green algae, and cynobacteria is the same thing. Not algae, but bacterial. Syrinx nailed it by mentioning it's not photosythetic. Reducing lights isn't going to help with that.
also, I have kept molly's in my saltwater tanks before, moreso because I just like molly's than trying to get them to eat any algae, but even then, they never touched any of my hair algae.
Only thing that worked in my tank was a queen conch, loved my hair algae problem, but when I loaned him to a friend with HA, he never touched any of it. Go figure.
also, I have kept molly's in my saltwater tanks before, moreso because I just like molly's than trying to get them to eat any algae, but even then, they never touched any of my hair algae.
Only thing that worked in my tank was a queen conch, loved my hair algae problem, but when I loaned him to a friend with HA, he never touched any of it. Go figure.
chris wright
In Memoriam
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9773947#post9773947 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by papagimp
FYI, blue-green algae, and cynobacteria is the same thing. Not algae, but bacterial. Syrinx nailed it by mentioning it's not photosythetic. Reducing lights isn't going to help with that.
Have you ever noticed that a cyano bloom is reduced in the morning compared to the quantity, after a day with the lights on? Obviously there is more factors to why cyano blooms, but people misunderstand the importance of light. Not only is it a food generating source, but with out a chiller, its a heat source. warmth is favourable to cyano. It will still exist in cold water, but wont be as prolific.
Heres a link on the photosynthesis of cyano,
Berkeley cyano intro
This link also talks about diatoms, etc. Ive posted to help clarify the mith of lighting. Its a basic read and not hard to understand, so dont be frightened of by the source.
Oh yeah, the only thing known to eat cyano, (government studies), as a natural predator is zooplankton. I cant be specific about it, the study wasnt that detailed, because it was more about cyano in dams. That is a bloom to see, its amazing how well the bloody thing does.
