Paracentropyge multifasciata
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tylorarm
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I'm surprised there's not a secondary market for some of the DD's underpriced favorites, the trio tonight being a prime example. It seems like certain fish like this that aren't that expensive, aren't extremely rare, so priced cheaply, are the favorites. Particularly difficult fish to keep alive. That's when the DD quality differential is most undervalued. I'm not sure what they're selling them for, but i'm sure someone would double the price paid to buy the trio off the lucky one who refreshes his/her screen fastest. If you get 'em in the basket you've got a couple days to take delivery, plenty of time to auction off the trio. Let the games begin.
michael_cb_125
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"I'm surprised there's not a secondary market for some of the DD's underpriced favorites, the trio tonight being a prime example. It seems like certain fish like this that aren't that expensive, aren't extremely rare, so priced cheaply, are the favorites. Particularly difficult fish to keep alive. That's when the DD quality differential is most undervalued. I'm not sure what they're selling them for, but i'm sure someone would double the price paid to buy the trio off the lucky one who refreshes his/her screen fastest. If you get 'em in the basket you've got a couple days to take delivery, plenty of time to auction off the trio. Let the games begin."
I am not sure this would be considered "ethical"
~Michael
I am not sure this would be considered "ethical"
~Michael
Sardaukar
Premium Member
No but it would be profitable.
I wonder if this is an actual trio or just 2x small ones and a big one.
tylorarm
Premium Member
Not so ethical maybe, but it is the fish trade...I suppose DD could cut off any scalpers.
I'm not sure i get the trio thing, pair i understand, but trio sounds a little odd. But then again, i'm not a fish, maybe that's how they like to hang out. Certainly not clownfish though, three's definitely a crowd with clownfish, and they make that well known to the odd man out.
I'm not sure i get the trio thing, pair i understand, but trio sounds a little odd. But then again, i'm not a fish, maybe that's how they like to hang out. Certainly not clownfish though, three's definitely a crowd with clownfish, and they make that well known to the odd man out.
michael_cb_125
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Angelfish (particularly Dwarf Angels) are found in nature singly as pairs and in harems.
So a trio would essentially be a small harem of these angels.
~Michael
So a trio would essentially be a small harem of these angels.
~Michael
copps
Premium Member
There is really no "trick". This would be similar to asking a world renowned doctor in his/her field "What trick do you have for getting patients well?" A fish not feeding is one symptom that can be caused by a myriad of issues... these issues can only sometimes be diagnosed by a very experienced fish keeper...
With that said, I know many people in this industry, and Kevin Kohen is on the short list of people I really respect and admire. Rest assured getting a fish from the DD is the absolute best offered online... there is not even a close second that I've seen in terms of the quality of product and conditioning done to the fish. Kevin is also a genuinely good and ethical person... take a look at some of the late night posts he contributes here... YES he is still at work and NO he is not paid by the hour. For all the hats he wears he always finds time to address customer's needs that many times can only be answered by him and not one of his staff because many times it requires his skill and knowledge.
Hey Tim, it's exactly along those lines! This is true with Centropyge multifasciata also... I kept one for over four years with no special care after getting it adapted. So many people confuse "hard to keep" with what is essentially "hard to adapt". No angels are hard to keep... I come up these one liners because they stick in people's heads (and you proved it Tim!), which will ultimately benefit the fish... one other that pertains to this species in particular is "At first worry about short term calories, not long term diet." Whatever your new fish is eating... keep feeding that! A new fish needs CALORIES in the short term... Think if you found your friend who was nearly starving to death, and when rescuing him all he would eat up front is hamburgers, and one other friend is telling you he needs a healthy balanced diet... well, the healthy balanced diet won't do him any good if he dies in the short term as a result of not eating... I'll admit this one of my poorer analogies
, but I get asked all the time something like "All my new angel eats is (insert not-so-nutritious food) but I've been trying to feed it all of these (insert more nutritious foods) and they won't eat. What do I do?" The answer is feed whatever the fish is eating... and feed a lot and often...I cannot tell you how often this is overlooked... My new talk I did at MACNA I entitled "Angelfish in Reef Aquaria: From QT and adaptation to pairing and spawning", because so many people want to accomplish the latter (pairing and spawning) without doing any of the sooner (QT and adaptation), as if the two aren't linked! The other mistake that is becoming all too common is people first attemtping QT only when they get a rare/hard to adapt fish! There is a learning curve like anything else when it comes to QT, and please don't cut your QT teeth on a fish like Centropyge multifasciata!
Centropyge form harems in the wild... unlike some other angelfish genera they for the most part don't care about each other during the day... one male will live with any number of females in a small territory... as twilight sets in there go to a rendezvous point where the male will individually spawn with each of the females... it is very hard to tell sometimes what harems they are living in during the day, and I can assure you that all Centropyge trios and pairs are not collected that way. The DD never claims they are like some either unknowing or unethical vendors. There is a huge advantage though with trios like the one that will be offered up on the DD in that alot of the work to see if the fish will get along has been done. Centropyge are sequential protogynous hermaphrodites, so any small ones that get along will eventually form a harem...
On a final note... multibarred angels ROCK! They are among that small percentage of fish who's beauty can many times only be appreciated in person...
Copps
Sardaukar
Premium Member
Ya I'm aware of that. Its also conceivable that simply putting 2x small ones with larger one could result in 2x small females and a larger female who has not yet turned male with ensuing aggression. I guess the real question is "is the large fish clearly a male?".
roktsintst
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I GOT EM!!!
Man I am Stoaked! They were a little more expensive than I thought they would be, But man are they sweet!!! To find a multifaciata that has been conditioned to DD standards is Sick, and a Trio is gonna be Incredible!!!
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/itemdisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=77730
Man I am Stoaked! They were a little more expensive than I thought they would be, But man are they sweet!!! To find a multifaciata that has been conditioned to DD standards is Sick, and a Trio is gonna be Incredible!!!
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/itemdisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=77730
Cantonesefish
with active cooling
Nice job man!
roktsintst
New member
Thanks Guys!
Trust me... Pic's will be up Friday when i get them!!! All 2-2.5"!!!! They are going to be a great addition to my tank!!!
Trust me... Pic's will be up Friday when i get them!!! All 2-2.5"!!!! They are going to be a great addition to my tank!!!
Sardaukar
Premium Member
Haha nice job, 5 minutes before email went out
Were you just sitting there and refreshing?
stunreefer
Reef Hugger
Awesome, congrats Ryan!
They'll make a VERY nice addition to your tank :thumbsup:
They'll make a VERY nice addition to your tank :thumbsup:
roktsintst
New member
Haha nice job, 5 minutes before email went out
Thanks...
Yes! for and hour and a half!!!! But it was worth it cuz i really wanted them...
roktsintst
New member
Thanks Man! Im sooo excited!!!
I was planning on adding a pair of centropyge potteri, and eventually a pair of multifasciata. But NOW... Im gonna have to put a hold on the potteri!!!!
roktsintst
New member
roktsintst
New member
Thanks Brian.
They should do fine....That is why I bought them from DD.
The Site said that they were housed with Butterfly's and wrasses so they are used to other tankmates, and they are readily eating brine shrimp, mysis, and seaweed!!!
They should do fine....That is why I bought them from DD.
The Site said that they were housed with Butterfly's and wrasses so they are used to other tankmates, and they are readily eating brine shrimp, mysis, and seaweed!!!
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