Part 2 arrived yesterday - here are pix

Origami2547

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Part two arrived at Dulles last night. I was up until past 2:30 AM putting it in. I was thrilled with all the extra goodies that Richard threw in. The anemones took right to their new home and the sponges and gorgonians really dress the place up. 'nuf with the words, here are the pix:

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Nice!

Nice!

Great job!

looks just like diving here!......when I have visibility...

What a good job aquascaping.....

makes me want to go diving!
Richard TBS


BTW...good job on placing the gorgs and sponges...they will be happy there...So many folks ask how to do it...now I can point to your tank!
 
:eek1: Ok I have no words! I am in shock, That is amazing! That is such a good job on placement. Staying up until 2 in the morning paid off, your hard work shows! Now I for sure can't wait for mine to come in too...going to test my tank again...

Congratulations!
 
Thanks, Richard and wintercool97. Diving where, Richard? The Keys or Tampa? If you say Tampa, I'm going to regret having my boat dive cancelled (Wx) while out there last year! I did get to dive off Palm Beach, though. Great viz that time - easily 200' or more.
 
woooww great job aquascaping, makes me want to rearrange mine.. you sure got some nice goodies too, richard is always very generous with his surprises.. Got richard a new slogan- buy tbs - a reef in a box :lol: enjoy all your new treasures and keep us updated with pics.
 
Fantastic job, thats what I'm striving for in my coming tank... but my LFS said that tbs rock would smell absolutely awful when I got it, whats your opinion?
 
Hi jakkalofv. My rock was absolutely NOT smelly at all. Many live rock vendors, I hear, ship their rock under wet newspaper and the like in order to keep the rock damp. This causes a lot of die off that results in smelly rock (especially sponges which can't tolerate even brief exposure to air and smell really bad when they start to die). In those situations, you need to clean and rinse the rock well to get the dead tissue off before putting it in to cycle. Otherwise, the cycle will be pretty intense.

Richard (at TBS), on the other hand, ships his rock UNDER WATER and counter-to-counter to your airport. This makes a remarkable difference in staving off the die off which these other shipping methods result in. The downside of this approach is, of course, the increased weight and shipping cost. But, given the objective and the investment you're making, it's certainly worth it in my opinion. Because the rock stays saturated with water, sponges and other life that does not do well when in contact with air, generally does alright.

Your LFS probably has live rock in a tank that they're selling that's been cycled. Of course, they got it someplace, didn't they? The rock probably sells for $6 or more per pound and if you got it, you could bring it home under water and drop it right into your tank with some decent results BUT I'll guarantee you: While it might be good rock, you're unlikely to see the same variety of life on it that you'll find on TBS's aquacultured Gulf rock. Plus, when you consider all of the elements of Richard's "Package," it really is a great deal (and that's not even including the little "extras" that he throws into the mix).

Finally, aquacultured Gulf rock has a different character than, say, Tonga or Fiji rock - it's a little more solid, or less delicate, in appearance. But, as you see above, it works great.

I really hope this helps you make your decision. I started looking into getting into this hobby about 6 years ago but put it off until just recently. On and off, I've tried to research a lot of topics (building a tank, building a sump, building a skimmer, making fish food, etc.) to give myself some peace of mind that I wasn't going to totally bomb on my first try. To this end, Richard gives you some really good instructions on how to prepare for and to monitor the tank cycling. Some of the best advice is to have a new test kit handy and to have a lot of salt water ready to make water changes. I probably went through 60 or 70 gallons of water replacement in the first week for a 90 gallon tank. I'm only a few days into the second delivery but the cycle is far less intense (I've not gotten above 0.5 ppm so I think the first cycle did a good job of establishing a functioning biological filter).

Also, as a side note, you'll find when you add your first batch of rock, you're skimmer will go nuts, producing lots of skimmate, for a day or so; this is perfectly normal (though it had me, a newb like you, calling the skimmer manufacturer for advice on how to collect all the foam which was coming off faster than it would break down into the collection cup!).

I think I've given more than just a simple answer to your question, but I hope it helps! Good luck!
 
@ liverock

@ liverock

Hey, Richard. That red fleur-di-lis shaped sponge (in the lower right) - the one that you shipped attached to what looked like a clam shell. Well, it surprised me yesterday when it had shifted a little bit (like 1/2 an inch or so) from where I'd initially put it. Upon closer inspection, the clam was ALIVE. Man, what a treat! There's something new in here every time I look!
 
Re: @ liverock

Re: @ liverock

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10885619#post10885619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Origami2547
Hey, Richard. That red fleur-di-lis shaped sponge (in the lower right) - the one that you shipped attached to what looked like a clam shell. Well, it surprised me yesterday when it had shifted a little bit (like 1/2 an inch or so) from where I'd initially put it. Upon closer inspection, the clam was ALIVE. Man, what a treat! There's something new in here every time I look!

Yea they like to grow on them...is an angel wing clam....he will move around, then find a spot and grab hold...
Richard TBS
 
I will second everything Origami2547 said.

jakkalofv you could ask any one here on the TBS board and the answer would be the same. NO smell, other than fresh ALIVE fish from the ocean, my tank is probably the closest I've ever got to the ocean, so to me it is all the more valued, and worth the extra in shipping.

I too think that your LFS is thinking its the uncured rock like what they get in that's shipped in damp paper. My first nano was set up with this kind of rock I cured myself, everything was so dead that it smelled like a dead wale in my living room!
 
awesome!

See thats what I thought but I didn't want to start an argument with this guy at the LFS since I'm basically buying my whole setup from him.

But from what I'v heard my decision is that tbs is the way to go for live rock, well worth any smell or extra shipping I think.

Richard sounds pretty awesome too.
 
LFS I used to frequant acctually recommendeded TBS (before they closed) because of "The Package". I cant wait till I can place an order with Richard for my 35. Great pics it looks like a few reefs I've been to snorkleing. Thats what I would call a near instant reef. Richard really knows what he is doing, and acctually cares about the results.
 
I have 3-4 turkey mussels still kicking in my original shipment. But I wouldnt buy LR anywhere else form Richard. Yes you may get some stuff you may not want but there are ways and Spears to kill crabs and other unwanted. Even an occasional BBQ of Mantis's. LOL. But the beauty of fresh rock from 30 miles off the coast and delivered to your airport with no die off is amazing....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10892348#post10892348 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CU kills
LFS I used to frequant acctually recommendeded TBS (before they closed) because of "The Package". I cant wait till I can place an order with Richard for my 35. Great pics it looks like a few reefs I've been to snorkleing. Thats what I would call a near instant reef. Richard really knows what he is doing, and acctually cares about the results.

Plus Richard is not killing a reef. He actually built the reef himself and replaces the product. Unlike some companies that rape the seas for pure profit.....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10895189#post10895189 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by scowiii
Plus Richard is not killing a reef. He actually built the reef himself and replaces the product. Unlike some companies that rape the seas for pure profit.....

Excellent and very relevant point!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10895189#post10895189 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by scowiii
Plus Richard is not killing a reef. He actually built the reef himself and replaces the product. Unlike some companies that rape the seas for pure profit.....


A very good point. With as much damage as happens naturally in the sea, Richard is not upseting the ballance. Besides he sells the most killer loking rock Ive ever seen at reasonable prices.
 
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