bluestarfish
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ok. I didn't know you could be a dvm without a phd. So when you get your phd should I call you Doctor Doctor?
Paul and I have graduated!!!!!!!!!
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macclellan
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Also, you don't need a PhD for an MD either. DVM, MD, DO, JD, etc. are all 'professional' doctoral degrees, and have to do with a particular professional 'art'. PhDs are academic and typically take longer (4-8 years). Actually MDs were once considered PhDs, but it was decided that their knowledge, while considerable, isn't as much as that of a PhD.
It's a shame that DVM is viewed as inferior to MD (both the schooling and income), considering that the requirements and schooling time are identical.
Paul, I wouldn't bother with a terminal Master's, just get it in route to the PhD. That's a step sideways if not down educationally from a DVM, not up.
When Paul gets his PhD, then you can call him a real doctor..../jk
It's a shame that DVM is viewed as inferior to MD (both the schooling and income), considering that the requirements and schooling time are identical.
Paul, I wouldn't bother with a terminal Master's, just get it in route to the PhD. That's a step sideways if not down educationally from a DVM, not up.
When Paul gets his PhD, then you can call him a real doctor..../jk
bluestarfish
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What have I started now. lol. I only asked because I plan on obtaining a phd. I have been asking people about how long it took and what setbacks they ran into. Once again, to both Doctors, Congrats.
IME a lot of people view the DVM degree with a good bit more respect than an MD. Not to take anything away from MD's in general (and I am ceartanly making this a generality and truly believe the vast majority of MD's do it for the good of humans and not for personal gain) we do it because we love it not because we want to make a ton of money
.......and we can prescribe more medications
The debate is ongoing and it really depends on who you talk to.
As far as comparing a professional degree with a PhD it's kind of like comparing apples and oranges. The main reasons to pursue a PhD are if you are interested in research and/or teaching. By and large professional degrees require a much more intensive and exhausting level of study while PhD's require a more in depth study of a specific body of knowledge with the emphasis on discovering something new in the database of human knowledge as a whole.
Chris
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macclellan
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Paul, LMK when I can take you out for a beer to celebrate before you skedaddle. :beer: That's open to you too, Chris, if you're done with the wedding and are up for it. Maybe after the meeting at Dave's we could swing by Calhoun's or something? You surely both deserve it!
Law school is only three years, and doesn't seem any worse than grad-school. I work with several PhD/JDs who say the same. I can't imagine completing any kind of professional degree and "coming back for more" to get a PhD. More power to ya, Paul, if you go back for seconds. :lol:
Janie, that is one distinctive benefit of being a vet - your patients can't talk! I know more than one nurse that left the field because they got tired of listening to whining patients and families.
Chris, I simply meant that based on polls, Docs are consistently in the top ten "most respected jobs", and (sadly) Vets aren't. Not everyone agrees with this of course, and I agree that it shouldn't be that way. Yeah, professional degrees (at least healthcare-related) are more intensive and exhausting because of the hours put in on the clinical side (which I saw first-hand with my Bioethics Practicum at UTMC), which is because the "practice (know-how)" of the professions takes, well, practice.
Law school is only three years, and doesn't seem any worse than grad-school. I work with several PhD/JDs who say the same. I can't imagine completing any kind of professional degree and "coming back for more" to get a PhD. More power to ya, Paul, if you go back for seconds. :lol:Janie, that is one distinctive benefit of being a vet - your patients can't talk! I know more than one nurse that left the field because they got tired of listening to whining patients and families.
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