PBT with persistent ICH
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Giovanni
AKA Flippa
My desjarni sailfin is chasing him around. I think the PBT got into some SPS or rock running. Even my docile skunk clowns were after him. They are in a 330 so I am not to worried about them settling in. I am just paranoid. I don't think there is any way ich can pop up that quick.
Spar
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agreed. when you see Ich, it is just the exit wounds from the parasites popping out of the skin anyway. and normally they do that in the middle of the night. I don't think that sudden stress would cause it.
i am interested to hear/see what it is though.
jthomps123
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Deinonych
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Your DT may have had ich prior to the PBT going in. I don't see how the PBT could have been infected after going through TT. Any other fish in the DT showing symptoms?
Spar
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I was thinking what Chris said also. Really comes down to one of a few possibilities:
(1) Ich already was in DT, so got reinfected upon moving him over
(2) Something is wrong with the TTM procedures
(3) You got really really really unlucky and a Tomite formed on the fish itself...
Snap some pictures of the fish if you can.
(1) Ich already was in DT, so got reinfected upon moving him over
(2) Something is wrong with the TTM procedures
(3) You got really really really unlucky and a Tomite formed on the fish itself...
Snap some pictures of the fish if you can.
Giovanni
AKA Flippa
The only thing I can think of is that a fish that was QTed but not treated had ich with no visible symptoms. I had several fish that I was QTing that when in the tank after the PBT. To this point no other fish have visible symptoms. The PBT on showed shots and no other signs or symptoms of ich.
I placed the PBT back in for TT and today he has no spots I can see or photograph. The spots were tinny much smaller than usual so maybe it was something else eliciting those mucus spot that look like ich.
I placed the PBT back in for TT and today he has no spots I can see or photograph. The spots were tinny much smaller than usual so maybe it was something else eliciting those mucus spot that look like ich.
Giovanni
AKA Flippa
Just a little update. My DT was and is infected with ich. It shows no sign endless I put the PBT in. Once the PBT or achilles go in, the is a brake out. When the tangs are removed, the ich disappears. I can cure the tangs, put them in QT for a month, and then put them back in the DT and voila, the ich shows up again.
I must have had a fish that never showed ich in QT come in as a carrier. I began treating my DT on 08/09/2014 by removing and treating my achilles and PBT tangs with the transfer method.
I must have had a fish that never showed ich in QT come in as a carrier. I began treating my DT on 08/09/2014 by removing and treating my achilles and PBT tangs with the transfer method.
I think your PBT/Achilles are the only ones showing visible symptoms due to their thin mucous coats. With the other fish, ich just comes and goes inside their gills - out of sight.
Giovanni
AKA Flippa
You are correct. I am writing an article about my experience and a complete method for curing ich on individual fish and DT of ich. another point to note is that when the tangs were introduced, they bread the ich and caused a visible out brake in the other fish.
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The presence of the tangs helped feed the parasites, increasing their overall concentration and this overwhelmed your other fish. You are lucky there were no casualties.
wooden_reefer
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I will always anticipate failure to eradicate ich and thus ich infestation in dt.
I will always plan to have to combat ich in dt and hence I always will have robustly cycled medium to support all my fish during qt and waiting for the dt to fallow out. This I do at least for the first six months after the last addition to dt.
Entirely probable! I think keeping a display ich free is a function of a good QT protocol AND a bit of good luck. Even if you QT all fish for 12 weeks, as I do, but don't treat prophylactically, as I don't, one cannot guarantee no ich.
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