Peacock Mantis Vs Tiger Pistol Shrimp

[nateyofo]

Not that I would ever do it...
but who would win in a fight, a full grown peacock mantis or a full grown tiger pistol shrimp?

 

[Giga]

peacock mantis

thats not even a contest

 

[nateyofo]

a pistol shrimps claw sends out a jet of bubbles and water the temperature of the sun(9000 degrees)

 

[Thurge]

Mantis in the first.
Considering I have been popped I don't know how many times by a pistol I would question the validity of the water temp.
Keep in mind that when a mantis strikes it causes a cavitation bubble. The same thing that causes small holes in the face of metal boat propellers.

 

[stepho]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14310186#post14310186 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nateyofo
a pistol shrimps claw sends out a jet of bubbles and water the temperature of the sun(9000 degrees)

That is incorrect. A pistol shrimp creates a bubble that when it collapses will momentarily reach the temp of the sun. When the bubble collapses it creates a shock wave which stuns small shrimp.

A pistol shrimps attack will not reach the temp of the sun in an aquarium. The water pressure is not great enough.

The shock wave would not be enough to stun a full grown peacock mantis.

Also the shock wave doesn't kill. It only stuns the shrimp long enough for the pistol to grab it. Even if it did stun the mantis the pistol shrimp would not be able to kill it before the it came to.

 

[Koshmar]

Which one would you rather be hit by? The loser is the one you pick. I rest my case.

 

[Thurge]

Pistol's tickle compaired to a mantis strike. Pistols don't leave bruses, mantis do.

 

[coryjac0b]

I've read a mantis strike is somewhere near 75 fps(51 mph) , thats insane for such a small creature.

 

[Gonodactylus]

I could write a book on this subject, but I will have to retire first.

A couple of points. I have seen snapping shrimps take out 6 cm gonodactylids, but probably not a large O. scyllarus.

Both snapping shrimp and stomatopods use cavitation. Up to 50% of the striking forces of an O. scyllarus strike are due to cavitation. We have measured the strike of a large O.s. at 1400 N. There is not snapping shrimp that can approach these forces.

Roy

 

[lionbacker54]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14312874#post14312874 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Koshmar
Which one would you rather be hit by? The loser is the one you pick. I rest my case.

nicely done

 

[Reefaddict79]

1400 newtons?... wow

 

[Koshmar]

I think I know how we can become independent of foreign oil.....