Peacock Mantis with Fish?

diordivasarah

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I am getting a 90g and was wondering if I could keep a Peacock with some fish. If not I will just wait until I can get a 20g and JUST have the mantis.
 
Its a real risk. Any fish tha rest on the bottom like Gobies would be toast, and if bored or hungry any fish could be a potential meal.
Honestly I would wait until you have a designated tank for it. I would also make sure your 20 is acrylic or go for a little bigger tank with thicker glass. Large peacocks have on occasion broken glass aquariums, and there is a clip from The Science Channel (forget what show) of a Peacock shattering a drinking glass to get to a crab.
 
THe quandary is if you have a mantis that's too big to be eaten by the fish, chances are, the fish are too small to be eaten by the mantis.
 
try a damsel fisrt, if your mantis shows no interest, I have found that clownfish make good tankmates, especially if they have an anemone to host. There are numerous people on here that have done it, myself, and my friend in three tanks included. We have a peacock / a 4" Alardi clown, a wennerae w/ a fire dartfish, a oesrtedii w/ a saddle back clown w/ anemone
 
BTW the wennerae and the dartfish share each others intricae tunnelwork, IME it seems like the smasher just arn't interested in killing fish (except goldfish- which ive only done twice when i first got my O.S.).
 
O.s. raptorial appendages show characteristics of both smashers and spearers. I would be frightened to try this myself.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6559299#post6559299 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DesertBandits
smashers eat stuff with shells and spearers eat fish. it's all a matter of which one you have.

My peacock eats goldfish, damsels, and molleys, he is a smasher, I am pretty sure none of these fish have shells.
 
I have a N. Wennerae in my 75 gal. reef tank. He's about 2 1/2 inches long and gets along peacefully with all my fish, including a Mandarin and a blenny that spend most of their time hopping along the bottom. The fish ignore him and vice-versa. Snails are another story..........any Nassarius that gets near him is gone in short order. I have to buy a dozen every month or so. He also eats the flake food and brine shrimp that I put in for the fish. I also have another Wennerae in a 9 gal. nano tank with no fish. Same story with the snails, and he recently took a liking to one of the 2 peppermint shrimp in the tank.
 
I tried a Yellow watchman gobie in my 15 gal. with an N. Nenn, and it wasn't 36 hours before the experiment failed.
 
There are boviously "personality" or "taste preferences" between members of the same species... I should also note my observations on the method of introduction. I inserted 50 of these sand burrowing "illynaeous" snails, (named somethng else on ebay right now where u can buy 200 for ~$20) my peacock showed no interest in killing, defending or eating the massive invasion... Recently, in my brackish (1.0210) my GS Puffer lives in, occasionally doubles as a feeder tank for ghost shrimp, fiddler crabs, and crayfish. I added over 50 ghost shrimp last week for storage, and in the past the puffer would swim around and kill (not eat yet...) as many ghost shrimps as he could till he tired... but not all, and I should note that I would put about 20 or so in at a time in the past. By morning they would all be gone. This time i put in over 50, and he hasnt killed, or even tempted to kill one... and they have been living in there for almost a week now... It almost seems like the puffer is overwhelmed, or something with the feeders b/c he was sulking around for a day or so.... anyways,... it seems that in my experience thus far, when a large population of a species is added, it reduces the desire of a lone predator to attack... or at least in some scenarios....
 
I just added a yellow damsel in with my larger o. s (He is less aggressive than the slightly smaller one). 3 days on, no dead fish yet. in fact, I spotted them hanging out together, wit the damsel darting into the damsel's burrow when a threat (Me...the feeding guy, ungrateful little s*^t) came close.

Time will tell...


-Ron

PS:This is a case by case sort of thing. I would never add a fish (OK, I might add a damsel, when Imove her to a bigger tank) in with my G. tern, as she is a murderous beast (And my favorite...:D ).
 
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