Peppermint Hogs at Exotic.

juaninsac

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If you've ever wanted one, now's your time. They had 2 more for 44.99. Unbelievable price. These guys usually go for around $250, around the same or more than mystery wrasses. Mine's eating mysids 10 minutes into the tank.
 
those arent true Peps. The TRUE Peps are SOLID white with red, NO black.

Matt told me they were but I clarified the difference with him and Nelson corrected him also. I believe they are going to get some though.
 
Masuda's Hogfish are stilll pretty expensive. Nice find, Juan!

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yea they are they have it for the cheapest price.
Theres only 2 guys I have known to have the real one, and 1 lives in E.G (you know him Karlito)and frequently is on this board, the other guy is from the bay area.
 
Really!?! I had no idea. I no longer focus on other's fish like I used to. I'm praying I never catch the 'rare fish' bug.

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9634246#post9634246 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishsoldseprtly
those arent true Peps. The TRUE Peps are SOLID white with red, NO black.

Matt told me they were but I clarified the difference with him and Nelson corrected him also. I believe they are going to get some though.

This is an unidentified species of Bodianus that has been sold as the "peppermint hog" for lots and lots of years to my knowledge. It's being sold as the "peppermint hog" at the marine center. Leonard Ho calls it the peppermint hog, Scott Michael calls it the peppermint hog. I typically see it sold for around $200-250. This is the exact fish that Exotic is selling right now for $45.
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As you pointed out it has black on the caudal fin.

I think you're talking about Bodianus opercularis as the "true peppermint". Have you ever actually seen one of these sold in the United States? How much money did it cost?
 
The "true" peppermint. Kinda like the difference between the flameback and resplendent angelfish. A tiny little splotch of color and lots and lots of money. :D

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the one you have and the one commonly seen in the trade is the false peppermint hog (bodianus masudai) and not the TRUE Bodianus opercularis, I actually am looking for the TRUE BODIANUS so I asked Nelson to bring one in. SO we will see. I also asked another friend I know to order one for me a few months back but I still have not gotten my request.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9636060#post9636060 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishsoldseprtly
the one you have and the one commonly seen in the trade is the false peppermint hog (bodianus masudai) and not the TRUE Bodianus opercularis, I actually am looking for the TRUE BODIANUS so I asked Nelson to bring one in. SO we will see. I also asked another friend I know to order one for me a few months back but I still have not gotten my request.

Common misconception. Bodianus masudai has a white belly and no black on the caudal fin. It's a different fish.

You can see a picture of B. masudai here...
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...and here...
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and at fishbase.org...
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The fish being sold commonly in the trade is not yet formally described by science as far as I understand it.
 
It looks like it could be a true since there isn't any black on the tail end. However a better pic would definitely help with a positive ID.
 
I think it's a juvenile of Hologymnosus rhodonotus.

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The cigar wrasse, Cheilio inermis, is much skinnier and longer bodied, has fewer bars, and they are a dark brown, not red.
 
Hogs are too aggressive and territorial for our tastes (ranks right up there with a 6-line, from what I have heard)... sometimes I wish we had a more aggressive tank, so that we could have such fish, but then I see the flame, rhomboid, lineatus and other fairy wrasses and I stop questioning our decision to go this route with our livestock selection. :D

Here is a prime example : http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=7219676#post7219676
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9806693#post9806693 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wongkwp
Pickup these today from O St. I don't think these are peppermint hogs, but they sure look great.

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Somebody's making a lot of money selling these fish as peppermint hogfish. :D

These are Hologymnosus rhodonotus, commonly called "thicklip" wrasses. They get over a foot long, are very aggressive, attack and eat shrimp, fish, clams, urchins, starfish, you name it. You don't want them in your reef tank.
 
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