I think its funny how you peolpe are more worried about complaining about petco and petsmart, they are all the same, have you looked at an online suppliers livestock, they probably treat theres the same, whether its fish, or birds or even puppies, the industry as a whole has issues and to sit here and complain is worthless to me, find a store you like that treats there livestock properly and go there, dont come on here and make this forum into a b**ch fest, no one is ever going to be able to solve the problems of the way lifestock are treated, whats next we going to have a 15 page forum on why you shouldn't eat usda beef, its all redicuales to me, if that store is so bad, which from the pics doesn't seem like it, then go talk to the store manager, but your not going to fix anything, all these people care about is how much that fish will line there pockets, not what happens tomorrow, and that even goes for the best of the lfs, who cares if your back tomorrow to buy another fish cause you put it in fs when its sw they just care that they moved the product out of the store. WE WILL NEVER CHANGE IT, use this site to help young hobbiest to know what they can keep and educate them, thats the only way, i was once that guy who had three tangs in a 58, but now i know better, and to say when you started you didnt would be a lie. Its an industry, and you will never solve the "unhumane", or what ever liberal term u want to use to describe it, treatment of FISH, after all thats all they are, lets not put them on the same scale as people. My local petco saleman is who got me into the hobby and helped me to grow throught the first crashes and the fustration of getting my tank running, now i have a nice reef that is my pride and joy in my front room. don't use this forum to drop to there level.